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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No one ever said it was going away. The entire subject is making the case for it but you have already admitted you could care less as long as it gets in there is no point in debating you.
    And why do you think people need to make a case for it to you? Do you represent the people who are changing the law?

    No, I could care less about which states make it legal or make it illegal simply because it's a symptom of the struggle period, as I said before. There isn't a doubt in my mind that it will eventually be made legal on a federal level. So, no...I'm not worried. Feel free to stop "debating" me, though.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    And why do you think people need to make a case for it to you? Do you represent the people who are changing the law?
    LOL Have you ever seen someone who put a bill forward and not make their case for what they want added to or changing a law and instead demanded the government make a case against it without an argument to do so?

    Yes I'd like to change this law but I don't want to present my case to change it. YOU should present your case for why it should stay the same!!

    You really are funny.

    No, I could care less about which states make it legal or make it illegal simply because it's a symptom of the struggle period, as I said before. There isn't a doubt in my mind that it will eventually be made legal on a federal level. So, no...I'm not worried. Feel free to stop "debating" me, though.
    Let me know when you actually are making a case and I will. The only thing you have done so far is capitulated you can't prove its genetic.
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    Re: Lots of people are legally excluded from marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I don't think it's genetic but rather it is simply a chemical reaction. I don't think it's anymore genetic than say...your favorite food or color.
    How exactly do you think genetics works? Genes create proteins, which cause everything to happen. Genetics is chemical.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Have you ever seen someone who put a bill forward and not make their case for what they want added to or changing a law and instead demanded the government make a case against it without an argument to do so?
    Well, you can go on believing that the whole "genetics argument" is going to be a part of the case. Frankly, I don't think it will be..and if it will, it will be a very little part of it.

    Yes I'd like to change this law but I don't want to present my case to change it. YOU should present your case for why it should stay the same!!

    You really are funny.
    I don't know why you think that people here have to present their case to you as if you are the one making the changes in the law. You aren't. We are simply having a discussion. The sooner you understand that, the better.

    Let me know when you actually are making a case and I will. The only thing you have done so far is capitulated you can't prove its genetic.
    I'm not the one making the case anymore than you are the one who needs to hear the case in order to change the law. So, perhaps you should stop pretending that you are and we can have an actual discussion.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    It was not a claim. It was a conclusion based on the lack of evidence provided to substantiate an equal footing with race as many here have made long before I ever posted that conclusion.

    You really need to read the entire thread next time.
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    Brain scans have provided the most compelling evidence yet that being gay or straight is a biologically fixed trait.

    The scans reveal that in gay people, key structures of the brain governing emotion, mood, anxiety and aggressiveness resemble those in straight people of the opposite sex
    Oh look, evidence. See, I back up my claim, you have yet to offer one shred of evidence to support your claim. You have in fact made a statement that is not true, not accurate, not even remotely close to the real world. In point of fact, there are a large number of research papers on the topic of why people have a certain orientation, and a fair number support the idea that orientation is not learned or chosen. With this being the case, your claim that there is no evidence that people are created gay is false.

    Care to try again?
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    Re: Lots of people are legally excluded from marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I don't think it's genetic but rather it is simply a chemical reaction. I don't think it's anymore genetic than say...your favorite food or color.
    What causes this chemical reaction?

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    Re: Lots of people are legally excluded from marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Thats because it has not been proven to be genetic.



    Some courts have claimed this but it is not fact which is the point.



    Again, that does not answer my question as to how the arguments would be different for legalizing marriage for either group.

    You can claim equal protection law all you like but if you cannot prove how they are different under the law you have no case to make the claim they are different.

    I refuse to believe that you are that dense. I think you are being obtuse.

    The answer is right before your eyes....unless you continue to refuse to comprehend the texts.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh look, evidence. See, I back up my claim, you have yet to offer one shred of evidence to support your claim. You have in fact made a statement that is not true, not accurate, not even remotely close to the real world. In point of fact, there are a large number of research papers on the topic of why people have a certain orientation, and a fair number support the idea that orientation is not learned or chosen. With this being the case, your claim that there is no evidence that people are created gay is false.

    Care to try again?
    To be honest, these findings don't address the issue tex was discussing (evidence of genetics).

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    To be honest, these findings don't address the issue tex was discussing (evidence of genetics).
    It clearly is evidence against his claim that gay people are not created. This shows that they may very well be created. If you want to get into genetics, we can start linking to studies showing that gays tend to follow a maternal line. We can show lots of studies which will blow up his theory that gays are not created, a theory which he has offered no evidence to support.
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    Re: Lots of people are legally excluded from marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I refuse to believe that you are that dense. I think you are being obtuse.

    The answer is right before your eyes....unless you continue to refuse to comprehend the texts.
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