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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is kinda how I see it, though kinda from the opposite view. I see most gay women discover they are gay, while most gay men kinda always know, if you follow the reasoning. When I was young, a saying in the gay community was "gay men are born, lesbians are made".
    I'm no scientist, but it seems to make sense from a biological standpoint.

    If "sexual attraction" were tied to the sex chromosomes, I think you might expect more men to be "born gay" -- being much more sensitive to variations (XY instead of the more stable XX).

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its really a cop out to call these people BI and it seems that every time you on the left are backed in a corner on the subject you bring thr Bi thing in.................The people that changed most of the time deny that........
    Nowhere did I mention bisexual.......
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Seems to me, Navy, that if it's possible to wake up tomorrow and decide you want to be gay, you'd want to make sure gays have rights too, because you might make that choice.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Seems to me, Navy, that if it's possible to wake up tomorrow and decide you want to be gay, you'd want to make sure gays have rights too, because you might make that choice.
    He said that he COULD make the choice to be gay...not that we would.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We will have to agree to disagree because I firmly believe they are not born that way otherwise they could not change...........Just like a black person can't change...........
    What I am saying, and what is clearly going over your head, is that some people can change, some cannot. That explains how some can change and lead happy lives, and how some people are very clearly very set in their orientation.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    the first amendment is merely a minimum requirement.

    libertarians against freedom and democracy or who are for limited freedom and democracy. i see.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    Navy you know genetically its very unclear there cant be something as clear as a gay gene.However i have met several people who are only interested in the same sex as themselves quite clearly.

    Why should that bother you? Why not let them be and also if you believe in special rights for married straight couples why not for gay couples? From my point of view its both or none.
    Lets get something clear....I could care less what gays or straights do in the privacy of the bedroom.....I just don't want to know about it........I am for gays having the same rights I have......I believe that can be accomplished through Civil Unions...I don't consider getting married a right..Its a privilege.........I believe in the sanctity of marriage and want it to remain the way it is today for the reasons I have posted a 100 times in this forum.......Gays have the same option I have...they can marry someone of the opposite sex..........I don't believe gays should marry, nor polygamysts, nor anyone identified by a class or sexual preference, nor I don't believe brothers and sisters, mothers and daughters. etc should marry for the benefits even if they remain celebrant........
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    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    He said that he COULD make the choice to be gay...not that we would.
    (Just to be technical)
    No, he said it was "highly unlikely" for him. Which means for everyone.

    Whether he would is irrelevant.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    Why not let them be and also if you believe in special rights for married straight couples why not for gay couples? From my point of view its both or none.
    That's the crux of the argument IMO. To me biology isn't relevant. If I'm hardwired to be attracted to 10 partners simultaneously, that doesn't mean we should enact a marraige law that concords with my "biology."

    It really comes down to what society should promote.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What I am saying, and what is clearly going over your head, is that some people can change, some cannot. That explains how some can change and lead happy lives, and how some people are very clearly very set in their orientation.
    As it is yours....Like I said before I don't know for sure.....no one does..........
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