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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Sex isn't just for the purposes of procreation. If it were, it wouldn't feel good.
    So you think the very act of procreation is just a coincidence that it feels good?

    What about hetero couples who are unable or unwilling to reproduce, should we make it so they can't be married either? Prove that it has no scientific basis in genetics. They did do a study and found out that there was no specific gay gene, but that's about it. Find me an unbiased scientific study that says what you are asserting here.
    Let me get this straight. (no pun intended) You want a study that proves procreation is between a man and a woman?

    That's not what I said, is it? I was referring specifically to people who oppose gay marriage for religious reasons...which makes up quite a large number of people who oppose gay marriage.
    Actually that's exactly what you said since you failed to mention any other group who opposes gay marriage for reasons other than religion.

    Over the years I've seen a lot of arguments against gay marriage, and not one of them has been legitimate or worthwhile. Most of it is based in unwarranted paranoia.
    As long as you understand you are speaking from personal opinion not based on facts.

    Case in point. What other lifestyles are you referring to? Are you specifically referring to polygamy? If so, I have no problem with that being legalized either. As long as consenting adults are involved I see no problem.
    But there you go. Why stop at consenting adults? This is where you fall off the wagon. Kids can drive at 16. Why can't they marry a 40 year old?

    Because society made a moral judgment on where we defined marriage. Same thing as drawing a line at gay marriage.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Let me get this straight. (no pun intended) You want a study that proves procreation is between a man and a woman?
    I think he wants to know why you think marriage is about procreation only when we allow non-fertile heteros to marry. I sure want to know. And gays can have children too, you know.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because society made a moral judgment on where we defined marriage. Same thing as drawing a line at gay marriage.
    Society also made a moral judgement that people should only be able to marry members of their own race. Did you support that as well?
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because society made a moral judgment on where we defined marriage. Same thing as drawing a line at gay marriage.
    Nice circular argument.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because society made a moral judgment on where we defined marriage. Same thing as drawing a line at gay marriage.
    No, society didn't make a "moral judgment". The law makes an ethical judgment that dictates a minor cannot give informed consent to enter a contract.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Society also made a moral judgement that people should only be able to marry members of their own race. Did you support that as well?
    Exactly. And this is why their analysis is lazy and shallow. They keep pointing to the point of contention and using that point of contention (the question at the heart of the argument) and using it as the foundation for their argument.

    That is logically inconsistent.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Can you change your sexual orientation to be attracted to the same sex? No, you cannot. But then your ignorant homophobic comments are of no surprise.
    You know by now little boy I don't respond to your posts so please don't respond to mine.....thanks.........
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You know by now little boy I don't respond to your posts so please don't respond to mine.....thanks.........
    Yet you just responded to his post. What the hell happened to you while you were away, Chief?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Society also made a moral judgement that people should only be able to marry members of their own race. Did you support that as well?
    That is a cop out and you know it DD Huge difference in the races marrying ang gays.......When the races marry its man and woman....not so if you allow gays to do so......entirely different.................
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you think the very act of procreation is just a coincidence that it feels good?
    That's not at all what I said.

    Let me get this straight. (no pun intended) You want a study that proves procreation is between a man and a woman?
    Nor is that. Is this how you think you win arguments, by making up positions that the other person never had?

    Actually that's exactly what you said since you failed to mention any other group who opposes gay marriage for reasons other than religion.
    My comment was specifically aimed at people who oppose it for religious reasons. It's not my fault that you failed at reading comprehension and were unable to see that.

    As long as you understand you are speaking from personal opinion not based on facts.
    Oh and you think that the arguments against gay marriage are based in facts?

    But there you go. Why stop at consenting adults? This is where you fall off the wagon. Kids can drive at 16. Why can't they marry a 40 year old?
    You are trying to be obtuse in order to prove your failed point. I specifically said consenting adults. A 16 year old kid isn't a consenting adult. Please, try to stay on topic.

    Because society made a moral judgment on where we defined marriage. Same thing as drawing a line at gay marriage.
    Society did no such thing. Are people who are pro-gay marriage not a part of society?

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