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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I said they would marry but sex would not be involved.....They would just marry for the benefits.............It has nothing to do with incest..............
    i'm not going to discuss this further, it's pointless.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh good, someone brought up interracial marriage, now anti-gm can bring up incest and this thread can fulfill it's destiny of becoming a cookie-cutter gay marriage thread like so many before it.
    Actually, it's already been brought up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    How about a brother and sister, a father and daughter, etc in marriges without sex for the benefits provided.......How about a man and two women.....How about polygamysts?.........if you approve gay marriage you have to approve those kinds of unions.........
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Why is the government still trying to define the word "marriage"?

    Why are people still putting forward bills that try to define the word "marriage"?

    Why are people so friggin stupid when it comes to this issue?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I meant the legal rights and benefits that go along with being married. I should have specified that.
    Thanks for the clarification. I've heard the same response from several other people, and the reason I can't understand that position well is because I don't see where all these rights are that married people have as opposed to unmarried people. If one wants to leave all his/her personal assets to a loved one upon death, it's easy to provide for that with a will. If one wants to designate a specific person to be his/her medical power of attorney in the event of dire illness, that is easily done with a living will. There is no tax benefit to being married, and when there was, the benefit was in favor of those who were unmarried. Am I missing some benefits of being married in the legal sense that others are aware of?

    Edited to add: The way it seems to me is that what gays really want is some type of societal approval that says they are "normal". My word usage is not meant to be offensive, and my personal thoughts on the issue is neutral. I'm not an activist for or against gay marriage rights, I just don't see evidence that the real issue is one of legality rather than social ideology. Maybe I'm wrong- it's just that what I see and what I hear are two different things.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Very Good.....
    Excellent, The New York State Senate deserves many kudos.
    Lets hope that this is the last we hear of this foolishness. The are many far more important problems that must be addressed.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm not going to discuss this further, it's pointless.

    Typical Liberal when you lose a debate you cut and run..........bye
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Why is the government still trying to define the word "marriage"?

    Why are people still putting forward bills that try to define the word "marriage"?

    Why are people so friggin stupid when it comes to this issue?
    1. I think marriage has already been defined...Gays and Liberals are trying to change the definition...........

    2. To stop gays and Liberals from changing the definition of marriage....

    3. Can't answer that one............
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. I've heard the same response from several other people, and the reason I can't understand that position well is because I don't see where all these rights are that married people have as opposed to unmarried people. If one wants to leave all his/her personal assets to a loved one upon death, it's easy to provide for that with a will. If one wants to designate a specific person to be his/her medical power of attorney in the event of dire illness, that is easily done with a living will. There is no tax benefit to being married, and when there was, the benefit was in favor of those who were unmarried. Am I missing some benefits of being married in the legal sense that others are aware of?

    Edited to add: The way it seems to me is that what gays really want is some type of societal approval that says they are "normal". My word usage is not meant to be offensive, and my personal thoughts on the issue is neutral. I'm not an activist for or against gay marriage rights, I just don't see evidence that the real issue is one of legality rather than social ideology. Maybe I'm wrong- it's just that what I see and what I hear are two different things.
    I think they may already have this from most of our society(acceptance); I do not think they are "normal" any more than I am(anger management). They should not "marry", I should not be granted a gun permit.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. I've heard the same response from several other people, and the reason I can't understand that position well is because I don't see where all these rights are that married people have as opposed to unmarried people. If one wants to leave all his/her personal assets to a loved one upon death, it's easy to provide for that with a will. If one wants to designate a specific person to be his/her medical power of attorney in the event of dire illness, that is easily done with a living will. There is no tax benefit to being married, and when there was, the benefit was in favor of those who were unmarried. Am I missing some benefits of being married in the legal sense that others are aware of?

    Edited to add: The way it seems to me is that what gays really want is some type of societal approval that says they are "normal". My word usage is not meant to be offensive, and my personal thoughts on the issue is neutral. I'm not an activist for or against gay marriage rights, I just don't see evidence that the real issue is one of legality rather than social ideology. Maybe I'm wrong- it's just that what I see and what I hear are two different things.


    They want their lifestyle accepted as a suitable alternate to a straight lifestyle and most people can not accept that.......I myself am for equal rights for all and I hink that can be accomplished through civil unions but like I said that is not good enough for the libs or a few gays because its a smoke screen..........
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    there certainly is a tax benefit to being to married. and many companies will not provide insurance benefits to same sex couples.

    [The myth of the marriage penalty - MSN Money

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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