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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah it went through in Maine and California until the people spoke and it was banned, in fact in any state where a vote was allowed it was defeated big time................
    What do you consider big time?

    4.2%? 6%? 40%?

    If you think that 4.2% was "big time" then I guess you think Obama whooped McCain eh?

    While I fully realize you ignore all fact that contradict your positions, gay marriage bans are steadily declining in margins.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Actually, our Legislature went to the Court....asked what specific language to use so that the People's clear intent was known. If public opinion via a referendum or legislative measure makes same sex marriage legal, that's acceptable. What I don't want is for the Bench to Legislate, this needs to be an issue left for society to decide, our government doesn't define marriage for us, we the People define marriage, government governs with our consent.....not the other way around.

    I just don't see public opinion shifting much either, in fact, it's getting absolutely clam baked in most referendums, i mean this this state was over 60% opposed.

    Another issue that needs to be addressed here, it's often assumed people are "ignorant"...or some unknown "fear" grips them when making this decision upon entering their ballot or deciding this through representation. That's absolute poppycock. This happens to be one of the easiest and clearest decision one can make. We're all familiar with marriage, we've nearly all experienced it, we know it's value to our society. And the electorate can easily make this decision through referendum, there is no ignorance, there is no fear. And the simple fact is...even in deep blue states, same sex marriage is contemplated.....voted on...and crushed in referendum, states like California 57%+ against, many red states well over 60% against. Easily read, easily seen, clear as bell, we vote no. and I'm not afraid to inform that will be reality, for our lifetimes anyway.

    Your post misses one big point. The US Constitution was created with the understanding that some rights/privileges are too important to be put to a popular vote. Its not about "legislating from the bench" its about ensuring that the Constitutional guarantee of Equal protection under the laws is respected and upheld.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You do realize that Murtha and Kerry are both decorated veterans, right?

    Navy has no respect for the military. He clearly displayed that in a recent thread.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    On the contrary -- you have, and clearly.
    Says Goobie the troll. Yeah that carries weight.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    It has never EVER been proven to be genetic in even 60% of any study that looked at homosexuality in general.
    Since the 60% is just something you made up, we can toss that to the side that you can't back up your own ****.

    It has also never EVER been proven that it isn't genetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its lost in every single state its been voted on.

    You are going to have to face that as well.
    And 30 years ago, it wasn't even put to a vote. Now it is. It's called progression. Your anti-gay marriage side is losing ground each decade. You are going to have to face that fact.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    who is going to make a straight person marry a gay person? until that happens, nothing is being IMPOSED on anyone.

    No one said anything about being forced to marry a gay person. What is being imposed is the redefinition of the institution of marriage and, by extension, the American family. Neither institution is the exclusive property of the left such that they may do with them as they please.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    to be fair, fear and loathing.

    what other defensible reasons could there be?
    Well, it's pretty simple. Marriage is a social, religious and legal institution that is constructed around the natural and exclusive sexual relationship between one adult male and one adult female. The obvious benefit of this sexual exclusivity that is grounded in social norms, religious convention and common law is primarily to the children created by this union. Since gays cannot produce children, a homosexual relationship, exclusive or not, serves no purpose for which the definition of marriage ought to be changed.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Stryker View Post
    Since gays cannot produce children, a homosexual relationship, exclusive or not, serves no purpose for which the definition of marriage ought to be changed.
    Well then, old people and people that cannot have children shouldn't be allowed to marry according to your archaic logic.

    Sorry but the whole, marriage is for creating children is not a valid reason to exclude a couple from marriage.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Stryker View Post
    Neither institution is the exclusive property of the left such that they may do with them as they please.
    And neither institution is the exclusive property of the right such that they can decide what changes and what doesn't.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Since the 60% is just something you made up, we can toss that to the side that you can't back up your own ****.

    It has also never EVER been proven that it isn't genetic.
    So

    #1 You can't prove its genetic

    #2 You can't even prove a genetic link in even 60% of homosexuals.

    Got it.

    Thanks.

    And 30 years ago, it wasn't even put to a vote. Now it is. It's called progression. Your anti-gay marriage side is losing ground each decade. You are going to have to face that fact.
    0-31 with 2 losses in the biggest year Democrats have had in an election in decades.

    You are going to have to face that fact.

    BTW, your pathetic attempt to claim because it hasn't been disproven as genetic somehow validates your claim is only another sign of desperation.

    What about bi sexuals? What about the people who marry, have kids, then "turn gay". Are you going to claim they are genetic too?
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