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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Uh-huh. Bet just ten or so years ago you thought you'd never see it in a single state.
    It has never been approved when a vote by the people was involved...............Only when activist judges or legislatures were involved..........
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It has never been approved when a vote by the people was involved...............Only when activist judges or legislatures were involved..........
    I don't know about that, but it doesn't matter one bit. It's happening.

    Bet the racists in the South didn't think desegregation would happen in their lifetime either. They sure complained that it was "activist judges" instead of the will of the people too.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    FOR THE LIKES OF LIBERALS LIKE MURTHA, KERRY AND DURBIN:

    "IF YOU CAN'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM."
    You do realize that Murtha and Kerry are both decorated veterans, right?


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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You do realize that Murtha and Kerry are both decorated veterans, right?

    They are also treasonous bastards.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They are also treasonous bastards.
    Uh-huh.

    You have fun with that.

    Bet you don't have the cajones to say it to their faces though.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    WARNING: EXTREME CYNICISM AHEAD -

    An observation on the occasion that sparked this debate is that the Gay Rights folks spent big bucks to elect legislatures to pass this bill. It was defeated by a comfortable margin. If you wish to be really cynical then you start to think - what if it had passed? Then the NY Senators who did not just get re-elected with nice contributions would probably lose potential future contributions based on this issue. So . . . the ones who took the money vote yes, some others vote yes to show their support for future gay rights contributions and votes, and the ones that still have 5 years to re-election help defeat it so they can milk it in the future too.

    Back to name calling now . . .

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    WARNING: EXTREME CYNICISM AHEAD -

    An observation on the occasion that sparked this debate is that the Gay Rights folks spent big bucks to elect legislatures to pass this bill. It was defeated by a comfortable margin. If you wish to be really cynical then you start to think - what if it had passed? Then the NY Senators who did not just get re-elected with nice contributions would probably lose potential future contributions based on this issue. So . . . the ones who took the money vote yes, some others vote yes to show their support for future gay rights contributions and votes, and the ones that still have 5 years to re-election help defeat it so they can milk it in the future too.

    Back to name calling now . . .
    That's some extreme cynicism you got there. Pretty unrealistic too.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Uh-huh.

    You have fun with that.

    Bet you don't have the cajones to say it to their faces though.
    You mean Lurch and Ollie?
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Yeah it went through in Maine and California until the people spoke and it was banned, in fact in any state where a vote was allowed it was defeated big time................
    And yet you ignore the fact that it has come quite far in the last 20 years. Do you honestly think that it will stop dead in its tracks now?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's some extreme cynicism you got there. Pretty unrealistic too.
    Perhaps, but if you look at the Civil Rights movement, they have passed all of the laws they can to become equal under the law but their politicians are still acting as if they are an opressed minority. Or as Rev. J. Jackson stated: "It took the US electing its first black president to expose just how racist it still is."

    So perhaps it is overly cynical (and I believe it is) but it could be realistic too.

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