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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    That's a dangerous argument you are making.
    Which? His position on gay marriage or Navy Pride's ignorance?

    Not that many on the left don't claim if you don't agree with their social policy you are "ignorant" or aren't "tolerant" enough.
    Well, if you examine the margins on defeat of gay marriage bills over the past 30 years, they've gone from universal staggering defeats to barely scrimping by. Prop 8 was passed with a mere 4.2%.

    On November 3rd [1998], voters in Hawaii vote 69% to 28% to amend the state’s constitution to empower the legislature to reserve marriage to opposite sex couples. This vote nullifies any positive ruling by the Hawaii Supreme court, effectively allowing the state legislature to ban same-gender marriage.
    Same-Sex Marriage: As Hawaii Goes . . .

    And yet the state has virtually no problems with a civil union status that is for all intensive purposes, separate but equal.

    Given the decreasing margins of victory for the anti-gay marriage group, it's only a matter of time.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Then prove it. Show us the study.
    I already showed two in this very thread that point to genetics. You threw out some random bull**** number of 60% rather than making a reasoned and logical rebuttal of the studies that were shown.

    lol you just keep on thinking that

    BTW, old people didn't loose it for your state. Minorities did that. Go get em!
    Old minorities. Get your facts straight.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I already showed two in this very thread that point to genetics. You threw out some random bull**** number of 60% rather than making a reasoned and logical rebuttal of the studies that were shown.
    Bull****.

    You have never EVER produced that evidence.

    Go ahead, produce them right now and I will be happy to destroy their credibility and your claim that they answer my challenge.

    Old minorities. Get your facts straight.
    Really. Got any proof of that or is this as believable as you magical studies?
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Which? His position on gay marriage or Navy Pride's ignorance?
    Neither. Keep reading.

    Well, if you examine the margins on defeat of gay marriage bills over the past 30 years, they've gone from universal staggering defeats to barely scrimping by. Prop 8 was passed with a mere 4.2%.



    Same-Sex Marriage: As Hawaii Goes . . .

    And yet the state has virtually no problems with a civil union status that is for all intensive purposes, separate but equal.

    Given the decreasing margins of victory for the anti-gay marriage group, it's only a matter of time.
    I'm not arguing that gay marriage has gained ground. I'm arguing using the "ignorant, enlightened, and tolerant" argument to debate someone.

    And for the record, I have no problem with civil unions.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Bull****.

    You have never EVER produced that evidence.

    Go ahead, produce them right now and I will be happy to destroy their credibility and your claim that they answer my challenge.
    I suggest you start reading back, sparky. I have no interest in jumping through the hoops of a proven liar.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I suggest you start reading back, sparky. I have no interest in jumping through the hoops of a proven liar.
    I didn't think so.

    And yes the personal attack without evidence to back it up the charge you made.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I didn't think so.
    You could have punctuated that sentence at the end of the word "think" and you would have been just fine.

    And yes the personal attack without evidence to back it up the charge you made.
    Where did you get this 60% number? Also telling me I never posted studies was a blatant lie.

    So what else am I supposed to think of your level of honesty, champ?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I already showed two in this very thread that point to genetics.
    I just went through this entire thread.

    You provided no link to any study anywhere in this thread.

    The only liar here is you Skippy.
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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I just went through this entire thread.

    You provided no link to any study anywhere in this thread.

    The only liar here is you Skippy.
    Uh-huh. Just keep digging that hole, man. Just keep digging that hole.

    And where'd you get the 60% number from, Chuckles?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Exactly. You don't understand.
    I know I don't.......
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