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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Cuz they didn't write the 14th Amendment, and the 'due process' clause?
    Just replace "Constitution" with "14th Amendment" then.

    That's what I was talking about anyways.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So what changed?


    I mean if today's marriage laws violate the Constitution, how come the people who wrote the Constitution didn't realize that?
    First of all, the 14th Amendment came well after them. And a lot has changed since their time. White people don't have a few blacks that they own running their errands for them anymore. We have automobiles and electricity and quick transferrence of information on a global scale. We have antibiotics and space travel, an understanding of psychology and genetics.

    Shall we continue listing all these game changers?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    First of all, the 14th Amendment came well after them. And a lot has changed since their time. White people don't have a few blacks that they own running their errands for them anymore.
    Like I said above... when I said "Constitution" I meant "14th Amendment".

    We have automobiles and electricity and quick transferrence of information on a global scale. We have antibiotics and space travel, an understanding of psychology and genetics.

    Shall we continue listing all these game changers?
    Don't see how any of this changes anything in regard to gay marriage.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So what changed?


    I mean if today's marriage laws violate the Constitution, how come the people who wrote the Constitution didn't realize that?
    for the same reason it never occured to them that blacks should be considered equal.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    for the same reason it never occured to them that blacks should be considered equal.
    That did occur to many of them. ESPECIALLY the one who wrote the 14th amendment.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    for the same reason it never occured to them that blacks should be considered equal.
    On the contrary -- there was quite a lively debate on the issue. Slavery was one of the more difficult hurdles that the people that wrote the Constitutiion had to get over in order to create a document all the states would accept?

    Where do you suppose the 3/5 compromise came from? And the end of importing slaves?

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That did occur to many of them. ESPECIALLY the one who wrote the 14th amendment.
    it's an amendment, and not written at the time our country was founded. they fixed it.......now it's time to recognize that gays should be allowed to marry.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Like I said above... when I said "Constitution" I meant "14th Amendment".



    Don't see how any of this changes anything in regard to gay marriage.
    Well first of all, it's now accepted that homosexuality doesn't come from disease, mental defect, or devils possessing a person.

    Also, being a homo isn't punishable by stoning or burning at the stake anymore. Sort of dropped that practice along with whipping "niggers" that talk back.

    So yeah, all of that changes everything in regard to gay marriage.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    First of all, the 14th Amendment came well after them. And a lot has changed since their time. White people don't have a few blacks that they own running their errands for them anymore. We have automobiles and electricity and quick transferrence of information on a global scale. We have antibiotics and space travel, an understanding of psychology and genetics.

    Shall we continue listing all these game changers?
    Please tell me you are kidding.

    Relating slavery to gay marriage?
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

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    Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Please tell me you are kidding.

    Relating slavery to gay marriage?
    Where do you see a relationship between slavery and gay marriage being formed?

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