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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    Well, I would think that since APR stations, or LINK is not generally seen, or heard outside a small number of markets, then obscure is completely appropriate.


    NPR on the other hand is in ALL major markets.


    So, it may be just a little more than disingenuous to infer that a LINK, or APR, or even PRI is as universally known, or should be to make your point. The overall consideration at least as I see it, is that the Government should have NO role in funding these sounding boards for liberal propaganda. These are my tax dollars as well, and if systems like NPR can't make it on their own, let them go.


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    Yeah, you're also a little behind the time and a little short of facts.

    They are now called American Public Media and they have a couple of shows they distribute that are on a regular basis to most public radio stations in most cities.

    That is Marketplace and of course, Prairie Home Companion.

    Oh, what the heck. Let's list the shows. I've heard quite a few of them on various public radio.


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    This was an extremely inaccurate statement. Public Radio is a lot like any nonprofits. Its hard work staying in business. Sometimes they have had to make cuts and they've done their share in the last 20 years.

    Gill, I am not expecting you to know the full history. But your original statement does not reflect the reality of public radio.

    I'm glad you listen too--it must have some value for you and its a barometer of intelligent thought going on.

    So let me get this straight. Public radio operates as non profit, but accepts money from the Government in order to maintain its business. The reality is that by accepting Government funding, it is therefore beholden to Government. And, as history has shown with these types of format, they fail if left to have to market themselves. Why do they fail if in the real world? I say it is because of their slanted and biased coverage of events that they report on.

    Consider this:

    Executives at National Public Radio recently asked the network’s top political correspondent, Mara Liasson, to reconsider her regular appearances on Fox News because of what they perceived as the network’s political bias, two sources familiar with the effort said.

    According to a source, Liasson was summoned in early October by NPR’s executive editor for news, Dick Meyer, and the network’s supervising senior Washington editor, Ron Elving. The NPR executives said they had concerns that Fox’s programming had grown more partisan, and they asked Liasson to spend 30 days watching the network.

    At a follow-up meeting last month, Liasson reported that she’d seen no significant change in Fox’s programming and planned to continue appearing on the network, the source said.

    NPR’s focus on Liasson’s work as a commentator on Fox’s “Special Report” and “Fox News Sunday” came at about the same time as a White House campaign launched in September to delegitimize the network by painting it as an extension of the Republican Party.

    NPR reporter pressured over Fox role - - POLITICO.com

    Coincidence? I think not.

    In closing, your elitist statement about NPR hold some value exhibiting intelligence is over the top. It is snobbish, boorish commentary like that that inflame a topic instead of discuss it, and make the castigator, in this case you, look petty and intolerant. I am sure such an enlightened person such as yourself doesn't mean to come off that way do you?


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, I would think that since APR stations, or LINK is not generally seen, or heard outside a small number of markets, then obscure is completely appropriate.


    NPR on the other hand is in ALL major markets.


    So, it may be just a little more than disingenuous to infer that a LINK, or APR, or even PRI is as universally known, or should be to make your point. The overall consideration at least as I see it, is that the Government should have NO role in funding these sounding boards for liberal propaganda. These are my tax dollars as well, and if systems like NPR can't make it on their own, let them go.


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    Amy Goodman show did not originate from LINK. Its from Pacifica:

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    Mind you, its your opinion that no tax dollars shouldn't go to fund rado and news sources. As a taxpayer I respectfully disagree and offer NPR as an example of a fine example of publicly financed programming.We are all better off for it.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Yeah, you're also a little behind the time and a little short of facts.

    They are now called American Public Media and they have a couple of shows they distribute that are on a regular basis to most public radio stations in most cities.

    That is Marketplace and of course, Prairie Home Companion.

    Really? Who are their sponsors?


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So let me get this straight. Public radio operates as non profit, but accepts money from the Government in order to maintain its business. The reality is that by accepting Government funding, it is therefore beholden to Government. And, as history has shown with these types of format, they fail if left to have to market themselves. Why do they fail if in the real world? I say it is because of their slanted and biased coverage of events that they report on.

    Consider this:




    Coincidence? I think not.

    In closing, your elitist statement about NPR hold some value exhibiting intelligence is over the top. It is snobbish, boorish commentary like that that inflame a topic instead of discuss it, and make the castigator, in this case you, look petty and intolerant. I am sure such an enlightened person such as yourself doesn't mean to come off that way do you?


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    j-mac,

    The key is becoming knowledgable. I think Jon Stewart said something to the effect that people sometimes see being elitist as someone who is educated and has actually got the facts about an issue.

    If you listen to NPR programming, one of the things they do is try to discuss an issue in more than a sound byte. They allow both sides to talk. So you come away from an NPR show hearing both sides tell their points of an issue. This is sadly lacking from most programs. They don't give it the time. At one time, they did.

    If you think you get the same knowledge about an issue from listening to most radio programming, I would be greatly surprised. However, I am open to examples of better radio networks in the US that can do this that were produced by the "market." Please share all of these sources so that I too can have knowledge of these sources that do at least as good as or better a job of producing information about current events like NPR.

    Go ahead.

    PS-Care to give evidence where NPR held back from criticizing the government.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Really? Who are their sponsors?


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    You mean, who are their underwriters? Why don't you do the research and tell me.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    Amy Goodman show did not originate from LINK. Its from Pacifica:


    Damn, I knew that also. Pacifica, a self identified "Progressive" outlet, is biased to the point of never having opposing viewpoint on (At least what little I have heard from them)....Amy Goodman the same.


    Mind you, its your opinion that no tax dollars shouldn't go to fund rado and news sources.

    Ofcourse it is my opinion, just as your opinion is to fund news outlets with tax dollars. What is the difference? You think your opinion is more valid than mine?


    As a taxpayer I respectfully disagree and offer NPR as an example of a fine example of publicly financed programming.We are all better off for it.

    Their educational programming I have little problem with, it is their overt bias whenever injected that concerns me as a listener. All I am saying is that if their programming is so all fired important to the country, then it would make it on its own, with sponsors. Why do you suppose they have to rely so heavily on the government for its very existence?


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Their educational programming I have little problem with, it is their overt bias whenever injected that concerns me as a listener. All I am saying is that if their programming is so all fired important to the country, then it would make it on its own, with sponsors. Why do you suppose they have to rely so heavily on the government for its very existence?


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    I've found that this argument for the likes of NPR to be rather foolish. If NPR is such a boon, and worth the listening, then it should be spun off and allowed to work in the market. This would save taxpayers money.

    But we all know what would happen if NPR lost the Government teat from which it exists.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    j-mac,

    The key is becoming knowledgable. I think Jon Stewart said something to the effect that people sometimes see being elitist as someone who is educated and has actually got the facts about an issue.

    Oh no you didn't....You mean that world renowned scholar, and thinker Jon Stewart? Give me a break!



    If you listen to NPR programming, one of the things they do is try to discuss an issue in more than a sound byte. They allow both sides to talk. So you come away from an NPR show hearing both sides tell their points of an issue. This is sadly lacking from most programs. They don't give it the time. At one time, they did.

    Is that so? so when Amy Goodman gets on and devotes an entire show to how American troops in Afghanistan promoted Genocide and then stood by and watched, to denigrate our mission there that was presenting both sides? Really?


    If you think you get the same knowledge about an issue from listening to most radio programming, I would be greatly surprised. However, I am open to examples of better radio networks in the US that can do this that were produced by the "market." Please share all of these sources so that I too can have knowledge of these sources that do at least as good as or better a job of producing information about current events like NPR.

    Go ahead.

    Talk Radio Network is doing some good work in this area.


    PS-Care to give evidence where NPR held back from criticizing the government.

    I wasn't aware that we were only to be valid if we could provide concrete documented evidence of bias. In that case then claims of FOX News bias is moot then too right? See, this is where the liberal elitist goes off the rails. We went from having a discussion to you trying to dismiss my point of view based on some BS about wanting me to waste my afternoon searching for examples so that you can turn and dismiss them too....Sorry Pal, I don't play that game.


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Damn, I knew that also. Pacifica, a self identified "Progressive" outlet, is biased to the point of never having opposing viewpoint on (At least what little I have heard from them)....Amy Goodman the same.





    Ofcourse it is my opinion, just as your opinion is to fund news outlets with tax dollars. What is the difference? You think your opinion is more valid than mine?





    Their educational programming I have little problem with, it is their overt bias whenever injected that concerns me as a listener. All I am saying is that if their programming is so all fired important to the country, then it would make it on its own, with sponsors. Why do you suppose they have to rely so heavily on the government for its very existence?


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    I will acknowledge that Pacifica is a left ward leaning public network. No argument on that!

    I don't think my opinion by itself is more valid. I just want the facts out there when making a decision. I think some people really believe NPR is totally funded by the government. True at one point, not now and by being a long time fan, I've witnessed their struggles.

    If your fear is that being funded by the government can cause censorship, don't forget that advertisers also have the same power. Of course the push on both sides is that you will lose some viewers and listeners if you are found to be dishonest. (but only if you're open to the truth.)

    The problem is that the market expands to serve the lowest common denominator and that doesn't help the knowledge area. Market is sometimes ok, but isn't the cure all to everything. While we are a country of individuals, we also have a duty to look out for each other and be the best country we can be. Market decisions are not the best for all decisions made in the common good.

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