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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    Ahh, so it is your position that the CPB filed fraudulent tax returns and published a fraudulent annual report on their web site???

    Are you denying that the Corp. for Public Broadcasting supports NPR???

    And yes, I listen to NPR quite often.


    And your position is that NPR filed fradulent tax returns and published a fraudulent annual report on their web site?? You are talking about NPR and NOT all public radio stations, correct? Corporation for Public Broadcasting distributes the funds to public broadcasters.

    Your numbers do not fit the current NPR financial statement. I have posted a link to NPR's site with their last few financial statements. If you show that most of their income comes from government tax funds, then you would be correct with your original statement. That's not true.

    Well, at least you listen. Good for you. I'm a member and believe that I should pay for it. Hope you do too.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    And your position is that NPR filed fradulent tax returns and published a fraudulent annual report on their web site?? You are talking about NPR and NOT all public radio stations, correct? Corporation for Public Broadcasting distributes the funds to public broadcasters.

    Your numbers do not fit the current NPR financial statement. I have posted a link to NPR's site with their last few financial statements. If you show that most of their income comes from government tax funds, then you would be correct with your original statement. That's not true.

    Well, at least you listen. Good for you. I'm a member and believe that I should pay for it. Hope you do too.
    How many public radio systems are there in this country????

    HINT: 1 (NPR)

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How many public radio systems are there in this country????

    HINT: 1 (NPR)
    Uh, rethink that a minute. I'll give YOU a hint. Garrison Keillor.


    That hint was brought to you by Powdermilk Biscuits.

    Be quiet Amy Goodman! He'll get to you eventually!
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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Uh, rethink that a minute. I'll give YOU a hint. Garrison Keillor.


    That hint was brought to you by Powdermilk Biscuits.

    Be quiet Amy Goodman! He'll get to you eventually!
    Are you actually claiming that Keillor did not have a show on NPR stations?? Other than that, your cryptic response is nonsensical.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

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    Be quiet Amy Goodman! He'll get to you eventually!

    Isn't she that largely irrelevant hippie throwback of a reporter on LINKTV, that loves to blame America more than anything or anyone else?


    Way to throw out the obscure.


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Are you actually claiming that Keillor did not have a show on NPR stations?? Other than that, your cryptic response is nonsensical.

    No, Keillor's show is not from NPR. Remember, all stations are independent. Is this a true statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by GIL
    How many public radio systems are there in this country????

    HINT: 1 (NPR)

    You present this as a fact. It is not. I gave you a real "hint." From what network does Prairie Home Companion originate? Amy Goodman produces a public radio program called Democracy Now. It is also not from NPR. From what network does it originate from?

    Come on, google it. I'm not going to do all your fact checking. You keep making inaccurate statements and I keep having to show your mistakes. This is where you appear to be unknowledgable about public radio.

    Where do you get your information about public radio financing?

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't she that largely irrelevant hippie throwback of a reporter on LINKTV, that loves to blame America more than anything or anyone else?


    Way to throw out the obscure.


    j-mac

    Obscure is a relative term.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    No, Keillor's show is not from NPR. Remember, all stations are independent. Is this a true statement:




    You present this as a fact. It is not. I gave you a real "hint." From what network does Prairie Home Companion originate? Amy Goodman produces a public radio program called Democracy Now. It is also not from NPR. From what network does it originate from?

    Come on, google it. I'm not going to do all your fact checking. You keep making inaccurate statements and I keep having to show your mistakes. This is where you appear to be unknowledgable about public radio.

    Where do you get your information about public radio financing?
    Ok, there are two producers of pubic radio programming. Forgot about the insignificant APM. Of course, they get over $6 million/year directly from the government themselves and money from individual stations

    Doesn't change the fact that CPB provides $100 million/year from the government to public radio.

    Also doesn't change the fact that each public radio station also gets government money, that they pay to NPR and APM for programming. The taxpayers money flows all through this.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Obscure is a relative term.

    Well, I would think that since APR stations, or LINK is not generally seen, or heard outside a small number of markets, then obscure is completely appropriate.


    NPR on the other hand is in ALL major markets.


    So, it may be just a little more than disingenuous to infer that a LINK, or APR, or even PRI is as universally known, or should be to make your point. The overall consideration at least as I see it, is that the Government should have NO role in funding these sounding boards for liberal propaganda. These are my tax dollars as well, and if systems like NPR can't make it on their own, let them go.


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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ok, there are two producers of pubic radio programming. Forgot about the insignificant APM. Of course, they get over $6 million/year directly from the government themselves and money from individual stations

    Doesn't change the fact that CPB provides $100 million/year from the government to public radio.

    Also doesn't change the fact that each public radio station also gets government money, that they pay to NPR and APM for programming. The taxpayers money flows all through this.

    Ha. Ha. Ha. You still don't know what you're talking about. There are several public radio networks. "Taxpayers money" flows through a lot of places. The goal is for it is to be efficient and provide for the public welfare.

    Public radio does an excellent job of doing that by educating people by being a reliable source of world and national news (and often local news in certain markets).

    This back and forth all started from this statement:

    NPR is a very liberal newsource. Of course its not having any financial trouble. As you said, they are publicly funded. Whenever they need more money, they run to Congress and ask for more.
    This was an extremely inaccurate statement. Public Radio is a lot like any nonprofits. Its hard work staying in business. Sometimes they have had to make cuts and they've done their share in the last 20 years.

    Gill, I am not expecting you to know the full history. But your original statement does not reflect the reality of public radio.

    I'm glad you listen too--it must have some value for you and its a barometer of intelligent thought going on.

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