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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    It would be self sustaining.

    And it's not worth it to the public to allow them to fail.

    I wrote a paper on this but I really don't care to discuss it.

    Just look at NPR its one of the best newsources in the states and its publicly funded and not having any trouble from what I know.
    It's very worth allowing Newspapers to fail. It would reduce the cost of creating tons of paper and ink to print these daily wastes of space, when all the information could be easily replicated and posted online with FAR less resources. People can still subscribe to newspapers, just online.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    It's very worth allowing Newspapers to fail. It would reduce the cost of creating tons of paper and ink...
    That's right -- imagine the trees that would not be cut, the electricity not demanded, the waste not made and the landfill space not used, should print papers go the way of the dodo.

    If you care about the environment, you'll support the demise of the print news media.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    It's very worth allowing Newspapers to fail. It would reduce the cost of creating tons of paper and ink to print these daily wastes of space, when all the information could be easily replicated and posted online with FAR less resources. People can still subscribe to newspapers, just online.
    Liberals should be jumping for joy at the prospect of all news papers and even magazines going out of business, if for no other reason than all the poor helpless, defenseless innocent trees that will be allowed to live normal healthy lives, in a happy little forest setting.

    Oh my God I think I'm going to tear up at just the happy thought.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Think of all the other industries that fell to changes in technology.

    Like the Telegraph. That was VITAL VITAL to the world! But those damn dirty telephones ran them out of business!

    How about cruise liners for actual travel (Not just for fun)? Airplanes replaced them! All those jobs lost!

    Or, passenger trains! Oh wait, we saved them....
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Liberals should be jumping for joy at the prospect of all news papers and even magazines going out of business, if for no other reason than all the poor helpless, defenseless innocent trees that will be allowed to live normal healthy lives, in a happy little forest setting.

    Oh my God I think I'm going to tear up at just the happy thought.
    Considering you're the third poster to come up with this, you should be crying about your lack of originality.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    It's very worth allowing Newspapers to fail. It would reduce the cost of creating tons of paper and ink to print these daily wastes of space, when all the information could be easily replicated and posted online with FAR less resources. People can still subscribe to newspapers, just online.
    Maybe, but unfortunately, those old papers are the last bastion of responsible, professional journalism left. They need to find a way to switch to the internet. They should have a long time ago.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Assume that Rep. Waxman had simple and pure motivation to preserve the journalistic integrity of newspaper journalists. Assume that the newspapers are a mixture of journalism that comes out even in the end. So get all of that out of the equation.

    What Rep. Waxman is saying is that we, as a nation, need this class of journalism to continue and thus we should find a method to preserve it into the future for the sake of our nation. Possible methods of preservation presented were make them non-profit organizations and thus able to take advantage of the tax codes. Fund them with public money. Give them tax breaks and allow corporations to gain tax breaks by funding them.

    But is this the best way to approach saving them? Historically this has been tried over and over again - see many of the previous arguments made that detail the carriage, passenger railroad, telegraph, etc. industries that were protected in one or more of the proposed methods in the past.

    So let us look at other means to improve things. What do we find? We find that the Wall Street Journal is a growing business and doing fine by offering its subscribers both a printed version and an online version. The online version requires a subscription in order to access the majority of the information available in an issue. This is a business method that both works and requires no action from the federal government. So would it not be better if Rep Waxman concentrated on tax breaks or incentives that would aid in converting the failing newspapers over to the same business model?

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Maybe, but unfortunately, those old papers are the last bastion of responsible, professional journalism left. They need to find a way to switch to the internet. They should have a long time ago.
    Sure. And it is up to them, not the government, to make that happen.

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    Assume that Rep. Waxman had simple and pure motivation to ....
    Waxman's never had a simple and pure motivation to do anything............

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    Re: Govt will need to help shape U.S. media: Waxman

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Think of all the other industries that fell to changes in technology.

    Like the Telegraph. That was VITAL VITAL to the world! But those damn dirty telephones ran them out of business!

    How about cruise liners for actual travel (Not just for fun)? Airplanes replaced them! All those jobs lost!

    Or, passenger trains! Oh wait, we saved them....
    The pony express was replaced by the telegraph before that.

    Both of the advances you sight led to more and better paying jobs eventually.

    Sadly the use of the term "help shape the media" is double speak for controlling content and eliminating all opposition to the left wing Socialist/Communist agenda. It's part of a well known pattern used by leftist though out history, a perfect example of this is the Hugo Chavez take over of most radio to shut down opposition to his dictatorship.

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