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    Re: Afghan Plan Faces Sharp Questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    the american people have to be committed to victory. we need a tax hike on the rich to pay for it.
    There is no such thing as "Vctory" for the U.S. in any situation like Iraq or Afghanistan. Keeping our troops there only makes us the enemy. We need to come home & take care of our own country.
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    Re: Afghan Plan Faces Sharp Questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Seems a much more definitive policy than the the previous 8 years of bumbling, but we both know no policy put forth by this President was going to garner your support.
    Yes it's a brilliant move by the Anti-American terrorist apologist Obama to tell the enemy your plans.

    Any damn fool who gives the enemy an outline for the enemies victory is a major idiot in the first (expletive) degree.

    Thank God the Taliban and Al Qaeda are not smart enough take full advantage of what they now know.

    The other idiot who did this Bush dodged a bullet when he did almost the same thing over Iraq.

    You never tell the enemy how to win. My God I can't believe people will still claim this imbecile is the smartest guy to come along,

    If you were the enemy wouldn't the cheapest surest way to win with no risk of further loses or expenditures of lives or money is to do nothing. Don't attack, bomb, or even show your existence and grow your own forces until the lamebrain pulls almost all the troops out them just take over.

    Obama is not only a fool but one or two words can't begin to express how I feel about this, ass, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, boob*, bore, buffoon, clod, clown, cretin*, dimwit, dolt*, dope*, dumb ox, dunce, dunderhead, easy mark, fair game, fathead, goose, halfwit, idiot, ignoramus, illiterate, imbecile, innocent, jerk*, lamebrain, lightweight, loon, moron, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numskull, oaf, sap*, schlemiel, silly, simpleton, stooge, sucker, turkey, twerp, twit, I think about covers it adequately.

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    Re: Afghan Plan Faces Sharp Questioning

    obama's obfuscating afghanistan policy is not going over well day 2

    joe klein of time called it "crazy"

    nyt's thomas friedman on matthews' hardball said---"the dots don't connect"

    the grey lady, cbs, the LA times and the usa today each went into far more devastating detail

    usa today---"dems doubtful, republicans critical;" hillary before senate armed services testified the admin has "not locked itself into leaving"

    Afghanistan plan leaves Dems doubtful, Republicans critical -

    but obama, according to cbs' white house correspondent chip reid, directly contradicted mrs secty of state

    "the president always has the freedom to reevaluate his decisions," garbled gibbs at the beginning of his daily briefing

    but reid, according to reid, challenged the spokesperson in the brady room, "i asked gibbs if senators were incorrect calling the date a 'target'"

    the question was apparently too problematic for the press secty:

    "After the briefing, Gibbs went to the president for clarification. Gibbs then called me to his office to relate what the president said. The president told him it IS locked in – there is no flexibility. Troops WILL start coming home in July 2011. Period. It's etched in stone. Gibbs said he even had the chisel."
    White House: July 2011 Is Locked In for Afghanistan Withdrawal - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    complete chaos

    la times:

    Reporting from Washington - President Obama's timetable for rapidly expanding and then shrinking U.S. force levels in Afghanistan, a central feature of his new war strategy, raised questions from critics and supporters alike Wednesday, and left top administration officials struggling to explain the plan.

    The war plan presented by the president Tuesday night, which fixes the beginning of troop reductions in July 2011 but does not set an end, was the subject of widespread confusion as lawmakers, diplomats and others debated whether it meant that American forces were headed for a hasty exit or a protracted military engagement.
    Afghanistan timetable raises questions --

    probably even more worrisome is the lady---"obama plan rattles nerves in afghanistan and pakistan," sabrina travernise and carlotta gall

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — President Barack Obama's timetable for U.S. forces in Afghanistan rattled nerves in that country and Pakistan on Wednesday, prompting diplomats to scramble to reassure the two countries at the center of the president's war strategy that the United States would not cut and run.
    In Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Rangin Dadfar Spanta, the only minister who commented on the speech, said the announcement that American troops could begin leaving in 18 months served as a kind of shock therapy, but caused anxiety.
    In Pakistan, Obama's declaration fed long-standing fears that America would abruptly withdraw, leaving Pakistan to fend for itself.
    Many in Islamabad, Pakistan's capital, argued that the short timetable diminished any incentive for Pakistan to cut ties to Taliban militants who were its allies in the past, and whom Pakistan might want to use to shape a friendly government in Afghanistan after the U.S. withdrawal. "The most serious issue, as far as we see it, is the exit date," said a senior Pakistani security official who spoke anonymously because he was not allowed to speak publicly. "It will have serious implications."
    zardari and kharzai, notably, offered no comments

    but others sure did

    "Is it in Pakistan's interest to antagonize the Afghan Taliban now, if they will be in power two or three years down the road?" said Ahmed Rashid, author of "Descent Into Chaos," explaining the thinking in Pakistani political and military circles. "Will the Americans actually deliver after the withdrawal, when the value of Pakistan decreases?"

    Pakistani analysts and security officials expressed skepticism that America would be able to achieve in 18 months what it had failed to do in eight years, and they said they considered the military buildup to be more resources poured into what was essentially a losing strategy.

    "Pakistanis are not convinced that another military surge will address the issue," said Maleeha Lodhi, a former Pakistani ambassador to the United States. "This is bombs and bullets bereft of a political strategy."
    Obama plan rattles nerves in Afghanistan and Pakistan - San Jose Mercury News

    the msm, as typified by the ny times, la times, time mag, the today and cbs, are beyond skeptical, they're nonplussed

    as are afghans and pakistanis largely

    they are asking questions of clarification as aggressively as is rush limbaugh

    it is what it is
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    We could have done a cooler surge with B-2's and B-52's.
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