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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Published? If so, that is the nature of scholarly research and theory. They are trying to predict a future pattern. The key is in how accurate the instruments they are using and whether there are alternative theories. You could still look at the same data and come up with different conclusions. Unless you know more about specific content of these "papers", you're dealing in ignorance with the subject.

    If not published in a proper journal, don't waste your time.
    Peer reviewed journals typically are "proper journals".

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Whoa, now we're grasping. Good Lord.

    Conservatives are absolutely for taking care of the planet. In fact, we are typically among the most conscious about picking up after ourselves.

    We just don't build a political party around it, and lie and exagerrate environmental "crisis" to gain votes for other hidden agendas.
    Example.... look at DC. after Obama's inauguration, and then after the millions that showed up at the 9/12 DC. protest.

    Inauguration Cleanup Effort Underway
    On the day after America’s biggest yard party, it was all about the monumental cleanup.

    The city’s trash trucks have already hauled away 90 tons of inaugural garbage with at least 40 more tons left to go, said Mafara Hobson, spokeswoman for D.C. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D).
    Inauguration Cleanup Effort Underway - Inauguration Watch - News and notes on the inauguration of the 44th president of the United States



    Of course there is no story on the 9/12 protest, as far as the MSM is concerned, it never happened.

    Here is a pic of all the trash left behind by those environment hating conservatives.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Peer reviewed journals typically are "proper journals".
    Yep, but you used the word "papers." You can have a paper be peer reviewed but still not get published. If you meant journal, no problem, just a gap of communication between you and I there.
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Remember that some of the e-mails talk about controlling the peer review process of the 'proper' journals to keep out dissenting views. So no publication of contrasting views = total agreement of the experts.

    A University of Minnesota professor managed to publish his findings that heavy storm cycles for the last 100,000 years have had a very steady and flat cycle - not trending upwards as the global warming crowd predicts in ALL of their models. Two of the professors who are currently under investigation in 'climategate' were instrumental in the professor losing his tenure, his position at the University, AND all professional credentials. Some of the released e-mails seem to refer to this conspiracy to silence a legitimate scientific research that managed to get published that casts some doubts on a small portion and claim by the Global Warming crowd.

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    so 84% or so of climate scientists are lying?
    Obviously so! We have the emails to prove it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    For some reason, many conservatives think taking care of the planet we live on is a bad idea. I don't get it.
    When CO2 is demonized using phony and/or doctored scientific "evidence" while the government grants keep flowing and connected politicians are reaping profits for nonexistent services (i.e. carbon credits, carbon sequestering)... that is NOT "taking care of the planet"!
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    STATS:

    only 5% of climate scientists agree with the radical repubs on global warming.
    We're still waiting for a legitimate link. Stop drinking the cool aid and reading Democrat talking points. Use your brain and logic and it becomes clear how the AGW alarmists have an agenda... and can't prove their claims on a level playing field of true science.
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    We're still waiting for a legitimate link. Stop drinking the cool aid and reading Democrat talking points. Use your brain and logic and it becomes clear how the AGW alarmists have an agenda... and can't prove their claims on a level playing field of true science.
    Why do you think that they refuse to release code and data... and find creative ways to make the graphs say what the IPCC political-pseudo science witch doctors tell them to say?
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    STATS:

    only 5% of climate scientists agree with the radical repubs on global warming.
    Hmmmmmmm......

    The Heidelberg Appeal
    The Heidelberg Appeal was publicly released at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro. By the end of the 1992 summit, 425 scientists and other intellectual leaders had signed the appeal. Since then, word of mouth has prompted thousands more scientists to lend their support. Today, more than 4,000 signatories, from over 100 countries have signed it, including more than 70 Nobel Prize winners. In spite of this spontaneous and growing support from the world's scientific community, the Heidelberg Appeal has received very little media attention.
    Polls can be twisted to say almost anything an unscrupulous pollster wants it to say..... However, signatures on something like The Heidelberg Appeal is a bit harder to spin.

    Neither a statement of corporate interests nor a denial of environmental problems, the Heidelberg Appeal is a quiet call for reason and a recognition of scientific progress as the solution to, not the cause of, the health and environmental problems that we face. The appeal expresses a conviction that modern society is the best equipped in human history to solve the world's ills, provided that they do not sacrifice science, intellectual honesty and common sense to political opportunism and irrational fears.
    APC: United Nations > Articles > The Heidelberg Appeal
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    Why do you think that they refuse to release code and data... and find creative ways to make the graphs say what the IPCC political-pseudo science witch doctors tell them to say?
    Can't remember where I heard it, but the hacked documents included the code, and an independent software programmer went through it and says that code is bogus.... it can be made to say anything a person wants it to say, wish I could remember the source…. In this case, google is not being my friend.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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