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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got any evidence supporting your claim that Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq? We have plenty of evidence to support the claim that scientists have been lieing about global warming...
    so 84% or so of climate scientists are lying?

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    "The intelligence and facts are being fixed around the policy."

    the US corporate media tried to ignore the downing street memo.

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    STATS:

    only 5% of climate scientists agree with the radical repubs on global warming.
    Interesting point about the polling question....

    no mention of CO2 as the cause of warming. It would be interesting to see the question: Is human produced CO2 the cause of the current warming?

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggae_6 View Post
    Why aren't any of these people mentioned in the articles you have posted? I'm sure you have read all of the e-mails yourself since you made the initial claim, right?
    No, I haven't read ALL of the emails... there are thousands of them.

    Feel free to read them all yourself though...

    East Anglia Confirmed Emails from the Climate Research Unit - Searchable

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Interesting point about the polling question....

    no mention of CO2 as the cause of warming. It would be interesting to see the question: Is human produced CO2 the cause of the current warming?
    This an important question that needs to be addressed. However, the current science seems hopelessly entwined with political considerations. Science works best when unemcombered with politics.
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by scottsoperson View Post
    STATS:

    only 5% of climate scientists agree with the radical repubs on global warming.

    Wow, that is powerful stuff.

    Scientists agree that humans cause global warming
    Ninety-seven percent of the climate scientists surveyed believe “global average temperatures have increased” during the past century.

    Eighty-four percent say they personally believe human-induced warming is occurring, and 74% agree that “currently available scientific evidence” substantiates its occurrence. Only 5% believe that that human activity does not contribute to greenhouse warming; the rest are unsure.
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    It's beginning to unravel for Obama? He's going to Copenhagen....how can this issue not be front burner....if a groundswell begins against this global warming hoax, his numbers already falling like Romans in front of Hannibal...what is next?

    He should have chosen Tiger woods as a VP, get some of the publicity off of him.
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Wow, that is powerful stuff.
    Yeah, they're mostly looking at the same damn data. How many satellites and related equipment do you think exists? So if UEA fudges the data and if 50% of the 97% base their conclusions on it, what's their credibility? So let's not go inflating the numbers. All those scientists didn't conduct their own independent experiments. And peer reviewed papers aren't worth a **** when the data is fudged.
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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Wow, that is powerful stuff.
    Extremely powerful since the people have drawn their erroneous conclusions based on conflicting data. I don't even consider them scientists.

    H-O-A-X

    Dude, you've been duped.

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    Re: UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

    Researcher: NASA hiding climate data - Washington Times

    Chris Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said NASA has refused for two years to provide information under the Freedom of Information Act that would show how the agency has shaped its climate data and would explain why the agency has repeatedly had to correct its data going as far back as the 1930s.

    "I assume that what is there is highly damaging," Mr. Horner said. "These guys are quite clearly bound and determined not to reveal their internal discussions about this."

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    Mr. Horner said he's seeking the data itself, but he also wants to see the chain of e-mails from scientists discussing the changes.

    The Freedom of Information Act requires agencies to respond to requests within 20 days. Mr. Horner says he's never received an official acknowledgement of his three separate FOIA requests, but has received e-mails showing the agency is aware of them.

    He said he has provided NASA with a notice of intent to sue under FOIA, but said he also hopes members of Congress get involved and demand the information be released.

    NASA and CRU data are considered the backbone of much of the science that suggests the earth is warming due to manmade greenhouse gas emissions. NASA argues its data suggests this decade has been the warmest on record.

    On the other hand, data from the University of Alabama-Huntsville suggests temperatures have been relatively flat for most of this decade.
    I am interested in seeing the data from NASA as well. Should be interesting to see the formulas they use to fill in data that was never recorded, How they adjusted the data after they changed the coatings on the temp sensor huts in 1979, how they account for urban heat soak in better than 80% of their temp sensor locations, etc.

    Also, I am very interested in their explanation for how and why they saw no change in global temperatures from satellites until they "normalized the data to match ground sensor data".

    And no, the Democrats cannot back down from global warming. They have bet everything on the control they will gain over the economy and the people with all the AGW laws and regulations they hope to pass.

    It will be interesting to find out just who at NASA has exchanged what emails with the people under fire in this current scandal. Anyone care to bet that people high up in NASA are also implicated?
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