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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Clinton had no legal basis to hold OBL at that time, so he had no choice.
    Translation: political correctness.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld blamed for failing to kill cornered Osama bin Laden

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    UBL has been dead for years.

    Gotta have a death certificate. )

    Why do we need a Death certificate?
    We in the US have a President without a Birth Certificate
    Kinda looks like a job opportunity for Orliy doesn't it?Maybe it will help her pay down the 20 k fine that she got hit with a few weeks ago.
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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Translation: political correctness.
    Actually it translates to the fact that Clinton did not "ignore" opportunities to capture OBL, as the article you quoted dishonestly stated.

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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Actually it translates to the fact that Clinton did not "ignore" opportunities to capture OBL, as the article you quoted dishonestly stated.
    No dishonesty here or in the article. In point of fact osama bin laden was a "known" threat to the security of the us. This was known at the time. This is why the sudanese offered to "help" us by either watching his moves or giving him to the saudi's. Both offers were declined. Why? Being watched by the sudanese authorities isn't a violation of us constitutional law. Neither is giving him to saudi authorities.
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld blamed for failing to kill cornered Osama bin Laden

    Political correctness? Excuse you. You just tried to make a quantum physical argument for liberalism affecting the organizational output of our national security organs.

    I'm sure the joint chiefs are a bunch of politically correct liberal bastards too.

    More like a lack of political will...

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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld blamed for failing to kill cornered Osama bin Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Why do we need a Death certificate?
    We in the US have a President without a Birth Certificate
    How do you ever expect to be taken seriously?
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    Re: Donald Rumsfeld blamed for failing to kill cornered Osama bin Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Political correctness? Excuse you. You just tried to make a quantum physical argument for liberalism affecting the organizational output of our national security organs.

    I'm sure the joint chiefs are a bunch of politically correct liberal bastards too.

    More like a lack of political will...

    You might have a point there.


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    .......An extensive review of the nation's antiterrorism efforts shows that for years before Sept. 11, terror experts throughout the government understood the apocalyptic designs of Osama bin Laden. But the top leaders never reacted as if they believed the country was as vulnerable as it proved to be that morning.
    Dozens of interviews with current and former officials demonstrate that even as the threat of terrorism mounted through eight years of the Clinton administration and eight months of President Bush, the government did not marshal its full forces against it.

    The defensive work of tightening the borders and airport security was studied but never quite completed. And though the White House undertook a covert campaign to kill Mr. bin Laden, the government never mustered the critical mass of political will and on-the-ground intelligence for the kind of offensive against Al Qaeda it unleashed this fall.

    The rising threat of the Islamic jihad movement was first detected by United States investigators after the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. The inquiry into that attack revealed a weakness in the immigration system used by one of the terrorists, but that hole was never plugged, and it was exploited by one of the Sept. 11 hijackers.

    In 1996, a State Department dossier spelled out Mr. bin Laden's operation and his anti-American intentions. And President Bill Clinton's own pollster told him the public would rally behind a war on terrorism. But none was declared.

    By 1997, the threat of an Islamic attack on America was so well recognized that an F.B.I. agent warned of it in a public speech. But that same year, a strategy for tightening airline security, proposed by a vice- presidential panel, was largely ignored.

    In 2000, after an Algerian was caught coming into the country with explosives, a secret White House review recommended a crackdown on "potential sleeper cells in the United States." That review warned that "the threat of attack remains high" and laid out a plan for fighting terrorism. But most of that plan remained undone.......
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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Actually it translates to the fact that Clinton did not "ignore" opportunities to capture OBL, as the article you quoted dishonestly stated.
    I've got more articles.

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    Clinton 'missed chance to get rid of bin Laden'

    By David Rennie in Washington
    Published: 12:01AM BST 02 Sep 2003

    Bill Clinton refused to order a strike on Osama bin Laden after the bombing of the American destroyer Cole even though the al-Qa'eda leader's whereabouts were known, according to a book to be published this week.

    In early leaks from Losing bin Laden, Richard Miniter, an investigative journalist, claims that Mr Clinton allowed the September 11 attacks to happen by squandering more than a dozen opportunities to capture or kill bin Laden. In two cases the terrorist leader's exact location was known, the book says........
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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Actually it translates to the fact that Clinton did not "ignore" opportunities to capture OBL, as the article you quoted dishonestly stated.
    And just in case you you missed it.....

    In 1993, the first World Trade Center bombing killed six people.

    In 1998, the bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa killed 224.

    Both were the work of al-Qaida and bin Laden, who in 1998 declared holy war on America, making him arguably the most wanted man in the world.

    In 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

    NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity.

    In the fall of 2000, in Afghanistan, unmanned, unarmed spy planes called Predators flew over known al-Qaida training camps. The pictures that were transmitted live to CIA headquarters show al-Qaida terrorists firing at targets, conducting military drills and then scattering on cue through the desert.
    Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - Nightly News- msnbc.com

    Of course this is from the notoriously right wing NBC, so you can discount it on that alone.
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    Re: Rumsfeld let Osama get away

    the corporate media has generally not focused on how bush let osama get away at tora bora.

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