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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    And in regards to Dumond, there has never been any evidence that Governor Huckabee took any actual actions to cause his release.
    You know, you can stick your fingers in your ears and pretend Huckabee didn't work his ass off to get born-again Dumond released till the cows come home, but the evidence says something different.

    As of December 2007, six of the seven Democrat-appointed board members involved were still living. Two have recently said no comment, or that they don't remember. One has not yet been contacted by the press. Two more of the five members who were present at the closed meeting with Huckabee — Charles Chastain and Deborah Suttlar — have stated on the record that Huckabee used the private session to strongly advocate DuMond's parole.

    The sixth member of the board still living, Ermer Pondexter, who was absent from the meeting, has stated that Brownlee asked her, on the governor's behalf, to vote for DuMond's parole. This represented a reversal of Brownlee's positions of August 29, 1996, when he voted against parole, and September 10, 1996, when he voted against recommending executive clemency or pardon. Brownlee would later be reappointed to another seven-year term on the board by Huckabee.

    A fourth parole board member (in addition to Chastain, Suttlar, and Pondexter) confirmed this story anonymously in 2002 and has not yet been identified by name in the 2007-2008 news cycle. Huckabee denies the version given by Chastain, Suttlar, Pondexter, and the anonymous fourth member, though he admits having met with the parole board and talking about DuMond. --Wiki

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Social conservatives are the absolute bane of society. Fiscal conservatives aren't so bad.
    That is an opinion.

    Nothing more.

    But out of curiousity, what is your reasoning?

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Interesting thread.

    Mr. X reduces Mr. Y's sentence for stealing
    Mr. Y murders cops Z1,Z2,Z3, and Z4 nine years later.
    Therefore, Mr.X....murdered(or is responsible of..., has all blame for..., etc) cops Z1,Z2,Z3, and Z4?

    Is that what you are telling? Are you sure????
    This isn't the first time he's done it. You know about the serial rapist who Huckabee pardoned after the man told him "I'm a born again Christian now", right?

    BTW, the rapist murdered and raped another woman within a few weeks of being released.

    Once, this is slightly understandable. But twice? Then it's a problem.

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    That is an opinion.

    Nothing more.

    But out of curiousity, what is your reasoning?
    Social conservatives tend to oppose anything which they deem "nontraditional". They don't have to rationalize their position, they don't have to compare costs and benefits. All they do is shout "it's nontraditional/unamerican/etc" and end the discussion. They just hate change for the sake of it.

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Social conservatives tend to oppose anything which they deem "nontraditional". They don't have to rationalize their position, they don't have to compare costs and benefits. All they do is shout "it's nontraditional/unamerican/etc" and end the discussion. They just hate change for the sake of it.
    How is that different from embracing the new just for the sake of change?

    Why is "change" often considered an end in itself rather than a means to an end?

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    You claimed Mike Huckabee was not a conservative.

    I proved he was a social conservative by any existing standard.

    Treatment of illegal immigration is not considered a test of conservatism as there have been acknowledged conservatives (Reagan notably) with stark, differing views on the subject.

    As for taxes, policies regarding taxes are different at the federal and state level. Ronald Reagan being a classic example of course who raised taxes mightily in California at one point but became known as a tax cutter as president.

    So. you lied.

    The only liar is you. You didn't claim social conservative. You said conservative which would require both and as I've already proven, McCain met your two suypposed criteria for conservative and I defy you find someone who is actually a conservative that considers him one.

    Your inability to understand what a lie is plays a great deal into your ignorance about the definition of a conservative.

    Its too bad you aren't honest enough to admit when you're wrong.
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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    That is an opinion.

    Nothing more.

    But out of curiousity, what is your reasoning?
    Funny how its an opinion of what a conservative is with him but I'm lying when I say he isn't a conservative.

    Your lies and your hypocrisy are on full display here.
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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Funny how its an opinion of what a conservative is with him but I'm lying when I say he isn't a conservative.

    Your lies and your hypocrisy are on full display here.
    Good point texmaster.

    I apologize.

    You did not lie.

    My difference with you can be classified as differences of opinion and to your way of thinking Mike Huckabee is not a conservative (to mine he is of course).

    You have a right to your opinion as as far as I know in this thread you did not deliberately state a complete falsehood.

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    This thread is just disgusting. Some of the opportunistic politicking over this incident is shameful.

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    Re: Cop Killer was pardoned from a life sentence by Mike Huckabee 9 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    Governor Mike Huckabee never would've reduced the mans sentence if he believed the man would murder people regardless of how religous he claimed he had become.
    I have my doubts that Huckabee even reviewed these criminals' records. Why?

    Because we know of yet another "I found JEBUS!" murderer that Huckabee decided should be set free, against the explicit dissent of the entire parole board and prosecutors...


    The real engine behind [convicted Arkansas rapist Wayne] Dumond's release, however, was a Baptist minister and ultra-conservative ideologue named Jay Cole, who also happened to be a friend of Huckabee. Cole would tell the governor about his visits with the supposedly innocent Dumond, when the minister and the prisoner would read the Bible and pray together.

    Perhaps the worst instance of that same syndrome, chronicled in detail by Arkansas journalists, concerned an Air Force sergeant named Glen Green, who was sentenced to prison for life after confessing that he had raped and killed a teenage girl. After beating the woman with nunchucks, he violated her almost lifeless body, ran over her with his car and buried her in a swamp. But yet another preacher friend of Huckabee's named Rev. Johnny Jackson somehow persuaded the governor that this incredibly brutal killing had been an "accident"—and that Green had repented, come to Jesus and therefore should be freed.

    Two years ago, I noted that Huckabee knew almost nothing about the Green case beyond what his preacher pal had told him. He consulted neither the prosecutor nor the victim's family, and overruled the dissent of his own parole board. After he announced that Green would be released, the furious public reaction forced him to reverse the decision. Yet he continued to release murderers and other violent criminals despite angry dissent from local prosecutors. --US News & World Report[/B]
    The case that sparked the citizen revolt against Huckabee came to public attention in 2004, when he announced his intention to release a murderer and rapist named Glen Green. What seems to have impressed him was the endorsement of Green provided by one Rev. Johnny Jackson, a Baptist minister in the town of Jacksonville and friend of the governor's. Observers doubted that Huckabee had bothered to glance at the case file before he decided to release Green, because he could not have helped being chilled by the harrowing confession it contained.

    In 1974, Green was serving as a sergeant at Little Rock Air Force Base, located in a suburban county outside the state capital. On a certain evening, he seized Helen Lynnette Spencer, 18, and brought her to a quiet spot on the base where he assaulted and tried to rape her. She briefly escaped from Green, who then caught her and beat her brutally with nunchaku sticks. He stuffed her into the trunk of his car and drove her off the base to another county, where he pulled her into the front seat and violated her. Since she wasn't dead, he ran over her several times with his car, and finally dumped her corpse in a bayou. When Spencer's body was found, her hand was reaching up from the swampy waters.

    This was the series of events that Green and his gullible minister -- who reportedly described the perp as "a humble Christian man" -- later insisted had been "accidental," an explanation that Huckabee inexplicably accepted. The prosecutors who put Green away for life in 1974 believed that he was capable of killing again, and they were stunned when the governor ignored their advice, along with the unanimous opinion of the Arkansas parole authorities. Only the anguished protests of the victim's family, amplified by the local media, eventually forced Huckabee to rescind the commutation of Green's sentence, which he had already announced. --Salon
    What's even more damning in this particular case, is the fact that the state of Arkansas requires that a killer express remorse for his actions, which Green refused to do, calling the rape and murder "an accident." But Huckabee went ahead anyway....


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