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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    What mission????????????????????????/
    Great question. That is what I am hoping to get out of tonights speech.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    You mean show the people battling for territories how I'm plan.. Terrorists would be glad that our troops are there.
    No terrorist would be glad that you show how we weak we are and leave so they can once again take over Afghanistan.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    What mission????????????????????????/
    Of course, you can't support the troops without supporting the mission.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It's too late for second guessing his decision. He's made a decision to send more troops. You would do well to support him and the troops.
    There are many different versions and visions of America. The American peoples are deeply divided over many issues, e.g., whether there is such a thing as terrorism as opposed to criminality. They are also deeply divided over who the real enemy is. Some say the enemy is bin Laden. Others say the real enemy is Obama, and that the real war is at home (speaking figuratively).

    Your call to arms would have resonated with Americans when they were still a single people. But that was then, this is now.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    We had no business saving Kuwait.
    The U.S.-led Persian Gulf War was not solely about liberating Kuwait. It was about protecting vital U.S. interests.

    FWIW, National Security Directive 45 (August 20, 1990) concisely articulates the basis of the U.S. decision:

    U.S. interests in the Persian Gulf are vital to the national security. These interests include access to oil and the security and stability of key friendly states in the region. The United States will defend its vital interests in the area, through the use of U.S. military force if necessary and appropriate, against any power with interests inimical to our own. The United States also will support the individual and collective self-defense of friendly countries in the area to enable them to play a more active role in their own defense. The United States will encourage the effective expressions of support and the particpation of our allies and other friendly states to promote our mutual interests in the Persian Gulf region.

    Nations protect their critical interests. They don't abandon their allies. They promote cooperation in areas of mutual interest.

    Doing nothing would have left Saddam Hussein in a position to dominate the Persian Gulf's oil shipping lanes and to put a chokehold on world oil supplies to further his interests and ambitions. That would have left the U.S., among many other states, dependent strictly on Saddam Hussein's good will for an important part of their energy supplies. No responsible foreign policy could allow for such a situation, because the intent of states and leaders is not always benign.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    What mission????????????????????????/
    Same mission as always.

    Kill the enemy and set up a functional government.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    I"m curious as to just how was the U.S. "distracted by Iraq"?

    Were all the thousands of soldiers we had in Afghanistan told to sit on their asses and watch the spectacle in Iraq or something?

    Did the number of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan fall because of the conflict in Iraq?
    Mostly because the emphasis shifted to thinking and planning for Iraq - a totally different environment than Afghanistan. The troops needed to finish off Afghanistan properly were not that many but the real thing came down to bucks. All of the bucks went to the larger project in Iraq rather than Afghanistan.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Non-interventionism + free trade + cultural exchanges + full diplomatic relations = peace.
    Such a proposition rests on the assumptions that:

    1. Every leader and nation desires peace.
    2. Every leader and nation embraces self-restraint and self-limitation.
    3. States' interests never conflict to the extent that they are willing to resort to force.
    4. Ideology is a non-factor in international relations
    5. Power is irrelevant.

    Such a world has never existed. The above formula would do nothing to deter the likes of a Napoleon or Hitler or Stalin. Indeed, they would thrive on such an approach by gobbling up the hapless and naive victim whose good intentions and good will would prove worthless when it comes to providing for their security.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    I will make this one observation though, a country full of heroin, and not one story of soldiers strung out on this drug, after eight years, I just had to make that observation.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Lets just note that most of the Poppy production is on Afghanistan's south-west side; on it's borders with Iran.


    On the North Side you will find more cottage industries like handwoven Persian Rugs, and legitimate husbandry and agriculture (cereal and wheat

    I knew someone was going to bite. He was referring to a map in the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 named: Afghanistan
    "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." -Jefferson

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