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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

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    Carry water much?
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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Not that invading and taking over whole countries was ever the right answer, but Afghanistan and Iraq wouldn't have been my first choice:
    From my understanding however, and I may be wrong here, there were a few key differences.

    One, while many of the people may’ve been Saudi citizens or born Saudi, their current area of occupation was elsewhere

    Two, the Saudi government post 9/11 was willing to assist and aid in attempting to stop terrorists and the funding of them. On the contrary the Taliban was directly funding and supporting Al-Qaeda and Saddam was directly supporting and funding other terrorists, with both groups refusing to work with America to deal with the issue.

    Now, I still think Iraq at that point was the wrong move in the long run. But I definitely don’t think Saudi Arabia would’ve been the correct choice. How you can care more about where someone is born than whether or not a government is actually sponsoring/protecting and funding them as justification of which place is more important to deal with is a mystery to me.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

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    I'm not much of a fan of people who automatically declare a policy a failure before it's been enacted. Then what always gets me is declaring a Presidency a failure historically, long before historians would even be able to touch the records.
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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    I still think we'd be doing better in Afghanistan if we got a better handle on the poppy fields on the north side. They are well protected by bunkers and it's easy to get airdrops there with relative protection. There are only three entry points to defend and there are two bunkers which give you a good view of the area around the downed plane. Sure, the high ledge near the gas tanks might be a good spot, but it's too open to be a viable long-term solution, and as we know, airdrops are crucial to winning this.

    The cavern is always going to be a source of fighting. Going in there is suicide, even with a stun grenade and/or flashbangs.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    So tonight we hear how Obama is going to send more trips, but with an exit strategy and deadline firmly in place. That's my guess.

    This will only force the locals to side with the Taliban, or face being beheaded the minute we leave. It also tells al-Quaeda to just hang out for a few months and we'll go away quietly.

    Once again, Obama will try to play both sides. This one will cost more blood without any real commitment to stay as long as needed.

    Remember when he called Afghanistan the "right war"? This is yours now, Obama. Your already ridiculous legacy will be greatly affected by this.

    Gawd, I'd hate to be a soldier today with this clueless wannabe running the show.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm not much of a fan of people who automatically declare a policy a failure before it's been enacted. Then what always gets me is declaring a Presidency a failure historically, long before historians would even be able to touch the records.
    Name a policy that was AUTOMATICALLY declared.
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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Hey, it's only going to be only 30,000 troops now. Wouldn't want to give McChrystal what he asked for.
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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Bush's appropriate response to 9/11 should've been to send SOF after those responsible and kill them. No war, no troops deployed.




    You know, SOF needs support behind them right?


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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    We had no business saving Kuwait.
    Sure we did. We had a lot of business interests that were threatened. Furthermore, we couldn't allow Saddam to invade another country, especially in that part of the world.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    From my understanding however, and I may be wrong here, there were a few key differences.

    One, while many of the people may’ve been Saudi citizens or born Saudi, their current area of occupation was elsewhere

    Two, the Saudi government post 9/11 was willing to assist and aid in attempting to stop terrorists and the funding of them. On the contrary the Taliban was directly funding and supporting Al-Qaeda and Saddam was directly supporting and funding other terrorists, with both groups refusing to work with America to deal with the issue.
    It amazes me that some people are unable to disconnect the actions of people from a certain country and the actions of the government of that country.

    Unless you can connect the actions of all the Saudis that have attacked us and the government of Saudi Arabia, mentioning that these people are Saudis is a red herring.


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