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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Still pretending that military alone will solve the problem eh?

    [And I see you constantly run away from historical examples showing where pure military failed.

    Let's see'em, sport.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Do what you want. I'll be supporting our President in his efforts to defend the United States from its enemies.
    Deja vu, all over again!

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    general mccrystal says we need to reach out to the muslims. i agree.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Such a proposition rests on the assumptions that:

    1. Every leader and nation desires peace.

    It also rests upon having a strong military to crush anyone who attacks us.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The U.S.-led Persian Gulf War was not solely about liberating Kuwait. It was about protecting vital U.S. interests.
    ie ..oil ..not reason enough to go to war. If oil is that important, why don't we have an alternative already. Didn't the oil crisis of the 70's teach us a lesson?

    I guarantee the day the last drop of oil is sucked out of the ground will be the day the oil companies miraculously find an alternative ready to hit the market.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    bush sr. was smart not to go all the way to baghdad.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Not that invading and taking over whole countries was ever the right answer, but Afghanistan and Iraq wouldn't have been my first choice:

    -Fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, trained and financing by yet another Saudi native Osama bin Laden.

    -The Saudi National Guard bombing in November 1995, which killed five Americans. All four of the men convicted and executed for the bombing were Saudis.

    -The Khobar Towers bombing in June 1996, which killed 19 Americans. Of the 14 men indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice for that bombing, 13 were Saudi Arabian, including all five of the men who drove and detonated the truck bomb on the day of the attack.

    -The Nairobi embassy bombing in August 1998, which killed 12 Americans. Both of the men who drove and detonated the truck bomb were Saudis.

    -The USS Cole bombing in October 2000, which killed 17 Americans. Both of the men who drove and detonated the explosives-laden boat used in that attack were Saudis.

    -The Riyadh residential compound bombings in May 2003, which killed nine Americans. All nine of the suicide bombers killed in the attacks were Saudis.

    -The Mosul mess tent bombing in December 2004, which killed 18 Americans. The lone suicide bomber responsible was identified in numerous press reports as a foreign insurgent from Saudi Arabia.
    Saudi Arabia is at war with AQ, the Taliban were co-conspirators in the 9-11 attacks.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Bush's appropriate response to 9/11 should've been to send SOF after those responsible and kill them. No war, no troops deployed.
    And leave the Taliban the co-conspirators in the murder of 3,000 U.S. civilians on 9-11 to go scott free? Nice.

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    And leave the Taliban the co-conspirators in the murder of 3,000 U.S. civilians on 9-11 to go scott free? Nice.
    I think to call them co-conspirators is a bit too far. The Taliban really wanted nothing to do with anything outside of Afghanistan-Pakistan. I've read over their "foreign policy" and, I'm telling ya, a 5th grader could do a better job.

    The ISI may not be the purest organization on the planet, but they sure as hell would have tweaked their prize-fighters against any sort of planning.

    But the Taliban is guilty of providing refuge for the A.Q. that part is undeniable, but we must discern between conspiracy and negligence.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I think to call them co-conspirators is a bit too far. The Taliban really wanted nothing to do with anything outside of Afghanistan-Pakistan. I've read over their "foreign policy" and, I'm telling ya, a 5th grader could do a better job.

    The ISI may not be the purest organization on the planet, but they sure as hell would have tweaked their prize-fighters against any sort of planning.

    But the Taliban is guilty of providing refuge for the A.Q. that part is undeniable, but we must discern between conspiracy and negligence.
    AQ was part and parcel to the Taliban government led by Mullah Omar, they had a seat on the Taliban's ministry of defense, there was a special detachment of the Taliban military known as the 055 brigade which was made up exclusively of AQ fighters, AQ even eliminated the leader of the Taliban's principle adversary, the Northern Alliance, one Ahmad Shah Massood AKA the Lion of Panjshirs, Bin Ladens son is married to Mullah Omars daughter and the Taliban granted AQ a safe haven in which to train and from which to launch attacks.

    When people claim that the Taliban didn't attack us it's like saying that if the CIA decided to bomb a building in; say, Saudi Arabia, that it wasn't the U.S. government attacking them.

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