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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's ironic how you spout about "freedom of choice" in a thread about a country that is taking away a choice.
    The swiss are simply exercising control over matters within their own borders. I have no problem with this.
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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

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    The swiss are simply exercising control over matters within their own borders. I have no problem with this.
    Well, NK is simply exercising their control over matters within their borders like starving their population. Guess you have no problem with that.

    Iran was simply exercising their control over matters within their own borders when they executed protesters over this last election. Guess you have no problem with that as well.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

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    It's not up to me, or you for that matter, to dictate what other cultures/nations are allowed to do.
    There is a difference in dictating and criticizing. Just because a country is allowed to do something, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.

    Criticizing the swiss for an action is not the same as dictating to them what they have to do.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

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    Well, NK is simply exercising their control over matters within their borders like starving their population. Guess you have no problem with that.

    Iran was simply exercising their control over matters within their own borders when they executed protesters over this last election. Guess you have no problem with that as well.
    Get back to me when banning minarets in switzerland is the same thing as the world's largest communist concentration camp.
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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

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    Get back to me when banning minarets in switzerland is the same thing as the world's largest communist concentration camp.
    Ah so now you get to pick and choose the goalposts? Don't think so, sorry. You just like the fact that Muslims are being discriminated against and are quite satisfied with it.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There is a difference in dictating and criticizing. Just because a country is allowed to do something, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.

    Criticizing the swiss for an action is not the same as dictating to them what they have to do.
    We have mexican nationals present ethnically cleansing neighborhoods of american citizens simply because they are black in southern california. I repeat. I don't have a problem with a country where the citizens choose to exercise some control over immigrants and their behavior.



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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Ah so now you get to pick and choose the goalposts? Don't think so, sorry.

    Yes, I think so. Banning minarets isn't the same thing as killing millions of your own citizens.


    You just like the fact that Muslims are being discriminated against and are quite satisfied with it.
    Actually, I have a tendancy to like people of faith, any faith. Athiests, generally speaking, are a pain in the ass. However, this is switzerland we're talking about, not some god forsaken multi-cultural fantasy land. I feel they have every right to make demands of this sort on it's immigrants.
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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

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    Yes, I think so. Banning minarets isn't the same thing as killing millions of your own citizens.
    You claimed you have no problem with a country exercising matters within their own borders, that includes murder. Don't make generalizing statements then.

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    I feel they have every right to make demands of this sort on it's immigrants.
    Yes, you feel taking away freedoms from members of a religion is ok. You support fascism, that's good to know.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    The swiss are simply exercising control over matters within their own borders. I have no problem with this.
    I don't see how the government has the proper power. So long as the buildings complied to code, making this illegal is nothing more than government force against a religion. Which everyone should ALWAYS have a problem with.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You claimed you have no problem with a country exercising matters within their own borders, that includes murder. Don't make generalizing statements then.
    I didn't say that, you did.

    Yes, you feel taking away freedoms from members of a religion is ok. You support fascism, that's good to know.
    If you knew anything about religion you'd know it isn't limited by building codes. I'm not a fascist. I'm a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism"]classical liberal[/ame].
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