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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    I disagree that muslims leaders have done all they can to help quell the violence we see all over the world. In fact, I see more apologists then anything else, from one corner of the world to the other. I guess you missed the recent muslim march to DC, the signs, the rhetoric was anything but peaceful, helpful, it was just more of the same.

    All that said, I still do not agree with this decision, but this is europe, and they have been slipping for sometime now, I am just glad I live in this country, under this constitution.
    Muslim leaders should lead their congregations out of the 13th century and into the 21st century.

    They're not doing that.

    We should help them. The next time terrorists hide in a mosque, we should blow it up, just like we or they would if it was a christian church. Muslims should learn that mosques are buildings, just like outhouses.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Please read more carefully, I didn't say that. I asked you if there are any universal values.
    No, each culture creates it's own values.



    No, it's government control. Just because the will of (some of the) people is involved doesn't change that. I explained this to you.
    That would be the will of the majority of the people.

    God, you're a massive question-dodger. (I love the liberal-sounding "part of their culture" thing though!)
    Now you're just being insulting. You could hurt my feelings.

    Answer these questions please:
    Ok.
    1. Do you fully approve of or have no complaint about what the Iranians and Saudis do?
    Peoples in these lands are free to practice their religion and follow their the precepts of their own culture. This is as it should be. They don't need my "approval."

    2. Did you approve of or have no complaint about the Soviet treatment of their people?
    Once again, this was the way it was. My "approval" was neither asked for nor needed.

    Now, before you get your panties all knotted up let me say what occurs in other countries is for them to decide, especially if this is done in a democracy. In america I have no problems with minarets. In america I believe women have the right to choose for themselves what they want to do. In america.....I have a valid opinion based on my culture.
    He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire. ~ Winston Churchill

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Muslim leaders should lead their congregations out of the 13th century and into the 21st century.

    They're not doing that.

    We should help them. The next time terrorists hide in a mosque, we should blow it up, just like we or they would if it was a christian church. Muslims should learn that mosques are buildings, just like outhouses.
    Interesting simile.....

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Interesting simile.....
    You are aware that the traditional symbol carved into the doors of outhouses is....the crescent moon....which is also a symbol of Islam...who's to say all outhouses aren't mini-mosques?

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You are aware that the traditional symbol carved into the doors of outhouses is....the crescent moon....which is also a symbol of Islam...who's to say all outhouses aren't mini-mosques?
    Better yet!........

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmmm this seems to be in contridiction:

    Art. 15 Freedom of religion and conscience

    1 Freedom of religion and conscience is guaranteed.

    2 Everyone has the right to choose freely their religion or their philosophical convictions, and to profess them alone or in community with others.

    3 Everyone has the right to join or to belong to a religious community, and to follow religious teachings.

    4 No one shall be forced to join or belong to a religious community, to participate in a religious act, or to follow religious teachings.

    SR 101 Art.*15 Freedom of religion and conscience (Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation)
    Where does it require them to allow one religion to show its dominance, by architectual display, often funded by totalitarian regimes like the one in SA?

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Muslim leaders should lead their congregations out of the 13th century and into the 21st century.

    They're not doing that.
    Who is "they"? There are many Muslim leaders. Some ARE doing just that. Some aren't.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Djoop View Post
    Where does it require them to allow one religion to show its dominance, by architectual display, often funded by totalitarian regimes like the one in SA?
    Yeah, good point - we should tear down some church spires!

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You are aware that the traditional symbol carved into the doors of outhouses is....the crescent moon....which is also a symbol of Islam...who's to say all outhouses aren't mini-mosques?
    Religious bigotry is usually crude and immature.

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    Re: Swiss voters approve constitutional ban of minarets

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    That would be the will of the majority of the people.
    So a majority can oppress a minority? If 51% vote to make you a slave, that's democracy?

    Peoples in these lands are free to practice their religion and follow their the precepts of their own culture. This is as it should be. They don't need my "approval."



    Once again, this was the way it was. My "approval" was neither asked for nor needed.
    So you have no problem at all with Muslim oppression and brutality, as long as they keep it in their own countries. Okay.

    Now, before you get your panties all knotted up let me say what occurs in other countries is for them to decide, especially if this is done in a democracy. In america I have no problems with minarets. In america I believe women have the right to choose for themselves what they want to do. In america.....I have a valid opinion based on my culture.
    But if 51% of Americans voted against minarets - or to ban Islam, or Christianity - or to make you a slave - that's okay? Will of the people after all.

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