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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Quote Originally Posted by carlkay58 View Post
    And both replies show the trouble with Iran's path. Yes, if Iran withdraws from the treaty they will require military intervention to force them to stop their nuclear program. If that happens, you will find it extremely difficult to build a consesus for military action within this country or the international community until such time as it is demonstrated without a doubt that Iran's nuclear program is meant for harming others - read this as when Iran explodes its first nuke in a country other than Iran.

    So Iran opts out of the treaty, all of the UN sanctions are then dissolved so the international effort at controlling the situation is voided. Iran can then open up trade to get what they need from other countries. While some countries may still refuse to deal with them, there will be one country or another that will. And that is all they really need is a single source.

    With proper connections in China or Russia (most probable is China), Iran could have a nuclear capability within two years or less. With 10 additional enrichment sites, they could have the material for 10 or so bombs within that period. Then comes the difficulty of delivering them. Their ballistic missiles are above average in range, below average in accuracy, but that is what nukes are good for - you don't need pinpoint accuracy with a nuke. But ballistic missile defense in the region is probably the best in the world with Israel, Saudi Arabia, and US forces in the region. So ballistic missile delivery systems are fairly high risk for the few warheads. So you need some 'volunteers' to deliver the bombs in person - something that is not that difficult to obtain in the region.

    In all, it seems a no-brainer for Iran to do so. There really are not anyone out there to stop them (with the exceptions of Israel, but they are already set up to illustrate Iran's need to be able to defend themselves).
    Well, the UN can't stop them. And in the short term, our current man-boy President won't put up sufficient roadblocks either. So, I'm wondering if there might not come a day when Israelis finally decide it was a nice try but it's time to give up the land and exodus out to friendlier territories.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Well, the UN can't stop them. And in the short term, our current man-boy President won't put up sufficient roadblocks either. So, I'm wondering if there might not come a day when Israelis finally decide it was a nice try but it's time to give up the land and exodus out to friendlier territories.
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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Telecaster View Post
    Well, the UN can't stop them. And in the short term, our current man-boy President won't put up sufficient roadblocks either. So, I'm wondering if there might not come a day when Israelis finally decide it was a nice try but it's time to give up the land and exodus out to friendlier territories.
    Or remain there and carry out their training efforts off of American Carriers and hold Rosh Hashanah in Adak or Natanz this year. Perhaps some festive lights in Qom or downtown Tehran would be appropriate as well.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Or remain there and carry out their training efforts off of American Carriers and hold Rosh Hashanah in Adak or Natanz this year. Perhaps some festive lights in Qom or downtown Tehran would be appropriate as well.
    Well then they better act quick! A few well placed nukes will play hell on Israel.

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    Worse than play hell, it wipes them from the face of this earth.
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    This is why Putin and his puppet need to be dirtnapped.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Iran can block the straits of Hormuz, and no one wants that, especially not now. I wonder if Iran would play this game without their oil card (Hormuz), the current situation on both sides of the Iranian border and the current potus.
    Whatever western nations do they should not make idle threats, the Iranian regime uses those threats to convince Iranians of the need of gaining nuclear weapons. A small air raid would buy time and could create a sense of hopelessness among the Iranian Islamists. A big, full scale attack could do wonders for the support of the Iranian regime, and that's the last thing we need.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Worse than play hell, it wipes them from the face of this earth.
    My point exactly. So then I wonder...Israelis and Jews not being a suicidal people, how will they end up choosing to deal with Iran. Can they really succeed with a pre-emptive strike on Iran? How long of a period of security can that actually provide?

    Thinking it through, I come up seeing a day when Israelis might just decide to give it up.

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    I doubt that a nation that reveres Massada will ever just give up anything and leave. I do expect that they are the ones that will take some sort of action to prevent Iran from joining the nuke club because Iran itself states that their prime reason to obtain nukes is to use them on Israel.

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    Re: Iran approves building 10 enrichment sites

    Okay then, Israel needs to rock n roll pretty damn soon. And when they do, they need to start taking possession of property.

    They can't be at peace, being a pint-size nation as they are now. They need acreage and dramatic population growth. Otherwise, this thing goes on as it has the last sixty years.
    Last edited by Telecaster; 12-03-09 at 07:14 PM.

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