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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    You don't think the wealthy landowners could hire someone to protect their investment?
    What do you mean? Your question does not make sense in the context of a conservation tax credit.

    Democrat leader reaped $1.1 million from sale of land he didn't own
    Not relevant. Besides, that's just Reid pulling essentially tax fraud by trying to get capital gains on land rather then a higher partnership tax.
    Again, not relevant as it does not address the basis upon which the legal aspect of land is derived from government.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    Without government to enforce deeds and the legal structure supporting the notion of land ownership, land's value is extremely questionable.
    Even with Government land value is extremely questionable.

    Just ask Harry Reid-

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    Generally the middle class and poor get hammered by FICA more than the rich.
    Provide links.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Provide links.
    Beyond the fact that this is extremely intuitive in the obvious manner that FICA isn't levied on capital gains, partnership distributions and munibonds as well as all unearned income...read:

    Tyranny of the Middle Class exposes income tax inequality

    Note if you're really poor, you're alright.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    The whole notion of land as wealth is dependent on government to function. Without government to enforce deeds and the legal structure supporting the notion of land ownership, land's value is extremely questionable. Would you buy something that you weren't sure you couldn't own?
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What do you mean? Your question does not make sense in the context of a conservation tax credit.
    You don't think the wealthy landowners could hire someone to protect their investment?
    Without government to support deeds and legal land ownership, people would hire others to protect and enforce their land boundaries themselves.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    You don't think the wealthy landowners could hire someone to protect their investment?
    This makes absolutely no sense in the context of a conservation tax credit.

    Without government to support deeds and legal land ownership, people would hire others to protect and enforce their land boundaries themselves.
    Which is essentially anarchy. The problem with that is the person with the bigger, better armed force is the one who owns all of the land. Would you buy land from someone else knowing that sooner or later the guy down the street with the tank is going to take it from you? What you propose is nothing more then 1990s Somalia.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    Which is essentially anarchy. The problem with that is the person with the bigger, better armed force is the one who owns all of the land. Would you buy land from someone else knowing that sooner or later the guy down the street with the tank is going to take it from you? What you propose is nothing more then 1990s Somalia.
    Well, duh......I'd go buy a tank.....

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    FTR I wasn't proposing anything.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Well, duh......I'd go buy a tank.....

    (anarchy is the absence of government)
    Tell me, did 1990s Somalia turn out well?

    I find it hysterical how everyone who praises Anarchy runs away when I cited a place that actually had anarchy.

    You people are so beholden to your ideology that you can't even see the forest for the trees.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    FTR I wasn't proposing anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Tell me, did 1990s Somalia turn out well?

    I find it hysterical how everyone who praises Anarchy runs away when I cited a place that actually had anarchy.

    You people are so beholden to your ideology that you can't even see the forest for the trees.
    Hello? McFlyy?
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