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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    One of the positives that comes with a generous welfare system is a decreased propensity to "steal for necessities".
    Proven by the low rates of theft in areas with high numbers of welfare recipients.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Proven by the low rates of theft in areas with high numbers of welfare recipients.
    Can you imagine those area's without such a system?

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    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Simply stating that we "pay the guy who is robbing me" is off base. First off, it assumes extortion. One of the positives that comes with a generous welfare system is a decreased propensity to "steal for necessities".

    A starving man will steal a loaf of bread regardless of how much you pay police.
    But it also serves as an incentive for him to not work for the bread himself.

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

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    But it also serves as an incentive for him to not work for the bread himself.
    Possibly for some. However i do not believe that someone who is content with poverty and doing nothing is going to be a productive member of society anyway. Best to keep them from stealing my ****!

    I am curious as to what the percentage is of section 8 recipients who are regularly prescribed to xanax, klonopin, lithium, valum and vicodin.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You know full well what I am referring to.

    In your mind, tax cuts for the poor and increasing the tax burden on the wealthy is stealing money from the rich.

    Tax cuts for the rich and increasing the tax burden on the poor and middle class is A-ok. Long live corporate welfare!
    Poor people don't pay taxes in America. They simply don't. How do you "cut" taxes they didn't pay? Bush actually gave rebates to people who never paid taxes to begin with!

    Rich people (which is anyone making over $80,000 in Obama's eyes) pay virtually ALL the taxes in America.

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Simply stating that we "pay the guy who is robbing me" is off base. First off, it assumes extortion. One of the positives that comes with a generous welfare system is a decreased propensity to "steal for necessities".

    A starving man will steal a loaf of bread regardless of how much you pay police.
    Yeah, how's that working out in D.C., Detroit, and New Orleans?

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Poor people don't pay taxes in America. They simply don't. How do you "cut" taxes they didn't pay? Bush actually gave rebates to people who never paid taxes to begin with!

    Rich people (which is anyone making over $80,000 in Obama's eyes) pay virtually ALL the taxes in America.
    Do you know what regresive taxes are like sales tax?

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, how's that working out in D.C., Detroit, and New Orleans?
    Much better than without it. You can bet on that!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Do you know what regresive taxes are like sales tax?
    A federal sales tax doesn't exist.
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    Re: Economy limping back to strength

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Much better than without it. You can bet on that!
    Can we? I think many of the high crime rates we experience today come from a generation that watched their parents live their lives on welfare. They go through their entire childhood believing that adults can just wait on their check and it will come. When adulthood hits they realize not everyone gets a check, single males especially are discriminated against. When the checks don't come and the now adults get hungry or they want something they turn to the "easy" way out.
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