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Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

never heard of dynocorp, but if what you say is true, then absolutely, no kidding

acorn is an active enabler of child prostitution and human smuggling

very bad
 
The Prof said:
never heard of dynocorp, but if what you say is true, then absolutely, no kidding

acorn is an active enabler of child prostitution and human smuggling

very bad
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Of course you've never heard of them they only get millions from our government every year as opposed to the 52 million acorn got over 15 years. No Dyncorp are active enablers of child prostitution and human smuggling. Acorn had a few bad employees **** up their job for a fake pimp and fake hooker. Surely you can see the difference. One actively committed a real crime against our government but still get funded while you complain about Acorn. Dyncorp gets 95% of its 2 billion annual funding from the federal government
 
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whoever said i cared, i simply commented

acorn is very bad

sorry if that upsets you

the biggest difference i didn't see you note---nobody's heard of dynocorp

everyone, on the other hand, is talking about acorn

cuz acorn is really bad

it was all over tv
 
The Prof said:
whoever said i cared, i simply commented

acorn is very bad

sorry if that upsets you

the biggest difference i didn't see you note---nobody's heard of dynocorp

everyone, on the other hand, is talking about acorn

cuz acorn is really bad

it was all over tv
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Acorn helps a lot of poor people in this country. People have heard of dyncorp just not you. Most people who aren't dedicated to partisan hackery know about them. Dyncorp isn't heard of because they're military contractors. How often do you see people on TV bitching about them? If you weren't as partisan as you come off Prof you would be commenting more on Dyncorp who commits actual crimes, gets more funding and has gotten away with their crimes. If Acorn is "very bad" as you claim then using your metric Dyncorp would be the devil.
 
down with dynocorp!

acorn, meanwhile, enables child prostitution and human trafficking

very bad

obama, i believe, got his start with the association of community organizers

i'm pretty sure even non partisans are pretty aware of that

oh well
 
The Prof said:
down with dynocorp!

acorn, meanwhile, enables child prostitution and human trafficking

very bad

obama, i believe, got his start with the association of community organizers

i'm pretty sure even non partisans are pretty aware of that

oh well
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No they don't. Do you have one actual case where Acorn aided child prostitution? Just one actual case not some fake pimp and hooker not completing paperword. Whereas Dyncorp has been caught twice for prostitution and human trafficking. Obama didn't get his start with Acorn. I see so this is about Obama nevermind Dyncorp who actually committed crimes.

So in the scale of things Acorn who fires employees for bad behavior="very bad". Dyncorp who engages in actual child prostitution, receives billions from our government, fires whistleblowers while keeping bad employees=no big deal.
 
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i just told you---down with dynocorp!

there's no reason to get hysterical

acorn, meanwhile...

well, i just don't know why anyone would defend it

except obama, i can kinda understand his position

kinda like a child towards his mom

even if she is a...
 
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i just told you---down with dynocorp!

there's no reason to get hysterical

acorn, meanwhile...

well, i just don't know why anyone would defend it

except obama, i can kinda understand his position

kinda like a child towards his mom

even if she is a...
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Bad employees were fired. You still have not presented any cases where they "actively enabled" actual child prostitution.
 
i already told you, it was on tv

over and over again

bad organization, obama's mom

bad politics

oh well
 
The Prof said:
i already told you, it was on tv

over and over again

bad organization, obama's mom

bad politics

oh well
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Those weren't actual cases of them enabling child prostitution. Again you have presented no evidence to back up your claims. What about Obama's mom? Bad politics is the kind of crap you're spewing. Acorn fired bad employees. Dyncorp did not. You're bitching over a small fry which helps lots of poor people in this country while ignoring the big fish; the military contractors who have committed crimes, defrauded our government and still get billions in contracts.
 
PogueMoran said:
Those weren't actual cases
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LOL!

You're bitching over a small fry which helps lots of poor people in this country while ignoring the big fish
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i'm not doing anything, the media are

is the small fry whom acorn is helping a child?

cuz, if so, that's not help, it's gross

at least by my lights (values)

not to bitch, or anything, but i'm opposed to child prostitution and human smuggling

you're as free as i to judge for yourself, naturally
 
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LOL!



i'm not doing anything, the media are

is the small fry whom acorn is helping a child?

cuz, if so, that's not help, it's gross

at least by my lights (values)

not to bitch, or anything, but i'm opposed to child prostitution and human smuggling

you're as free as i to judge for yourself, naturally
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Yeah the media is focusing on bull**** like they normally do. Child Prostitution and human smuggling didn't happen with acorn. Again you've presented no actual cases where Acorn enabled human smuggling and child prostitution. What you had was a filmmaker bankrolled by a conservative thinktank which routinely targets organizations that help minorities. You had employees who got fired for doing stuff they werent. Thus far though you have presented nothing to back up the part you said about Acorn enabling child prostitution and human trafficking. They haven't while Dyncorp did. Yet you're focused on Acorn.

I am judging for myself. One who actually got caught twice for child prostitution while serving us overseas compared to one that didn't. Yeah Dyncorp is the bigger fish
 
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PogueMoran said:
Yeah the media is focusing on bull**** like they normally do. Child Prostitution and human smuggling didn't happen with acorn.
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It only didn't happen because the case they showed was an undercover reporter who wasn't ACTUALLY trafficking any people or prostituting his ho.
 
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It only didn't happen because the case they showed was an undercover reporter who wasn't ACTUALLY trafficking any people or prostituting his ho.
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Exactly there was no actual trafficking or prostitution counter to Prof's claims. It wasn't a reporter either it was a conservative "filmmaker" who was bankrolled by a thinktank.
 
PogueMoran said:
Exactly there was no actual trafficking or prostitution counter to Prof's claims. It wasn't a reporter either it was a conservative "filmmaker" who was bankrolled by a thinktank.
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1. How many liberals would have the same field day if videos like this surfaced about a 'conservative' organization? I mean, kinda on a related topic look at Prejean's sex tape...I mean really...look at it....Oh God, it's beautiful...ok...where was I? Oh right. They'd have a field day with it. Why? See #2.

2. Where there's smoke, there might be fire. Just because the 'one' time we see something underhanded happen like this (and especially as quickly and as happy as they were to help) doesn't mean that they haven't done something similar before.


Goes either way, but he makes a valid point. it's not like they faked Acorn offices, they went in to real places on more than one occasion. Could it be an extremely good coincidence or a well put together scam? perhaps, but the way Acorn reacted didn't exactly say "We're innocent" it was more like '****, we better get a leash on this asap and fire somebody's ass"
 
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1. How many liberals would have the same field day if videos like this surfaced about a 'conservative' organization? I mean, kinda on a related topic look at Prejean's sex tape...I mean really...look at it....Oh God, it's beautiful...ok...where was I? Oh right. They'd have a field day with it. Why? See #2.

2. Where there's smoke, there might be fire. Just because the 'one' time we see something underhanded happen like this (and especially as quickly and as happy as they were to help) doesn't mean that they haven't done something similar before.


Goes either way, but he makes a valid point. it's not like they faked Acorn offices, they went in to real places on more than one occasion. Could it be an extremely good coincidence or a well put together scam? perhaps, but the way Acorn reacted didn't exactly say "We're innocent" it was more like '****, we better get a leash on this asap and fire somebody's ass"
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No prof doesn't make a point. When he claims emphatically, like he has,that Acorn has enabled child prostitution rings and human trafficking; that's an outright lie. So far there have been no cases to prove such. You had a fake pimp and a fake ho pretending to run a fake prostitution ring. As opposed to the case with Dyncorp, which prof never heard of, which actually did get involved in a child prostitution ring in Bosnia. They still receive government funding. This fake outrage over Acorn is ridiculous. If they were really out to stop fraud many of the government contractors would be losing their contracts by now as they've done far more heinous things than employees advising fake pimps and hoes.
 
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No prof doesn't make a point. When he claims emphatically, like he has,that Acorn has enabled child prostitution rings and human trafficking; that's an outright lie. So far there have been no cases to prove such. You had a fake pimp and a fake ho pretending to run a fake prostitution ring. As opposed to the case with Dyncorp, which prof never heard of, which actually did get involved in a child prostitution ring in Bosnia. They still receive government funding. This fake outrage over Acorn is ridiculous. If they were really out to stop fraud many of the government contractors would be losing their contracts by now as they've done far more heinous things than employees advising fake pimps and hoes.
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Pick and choose and analogize however you'd like. Everyone is guilty in some way or another, and there is more than just YOUR way of looking at things.
 
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Pick and choose and analogize however you'd like. Everyone is guilty in some way or another, and there is more than just YOUR way of looking at things.
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There's nothing to analogize. When Prof says they enable child prostitution and human trafficking when there are no cases of it, it's an outright lie. I just wish Prof would back up his statement.
 
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oh, they're enablers, alright

they very actively enable and engage in enabling

enabling, y'know, is one of those trendy psycho-words

like co-dependent

and intervention

acorn gets an A+ in enabling

child prostitutes and human smugglers, that is

exactly how much all that enabling actually bore real results, well...

no one filmed that part

but one thing about acorn---they might not always succeed, but they sure TRY
 
The Prof said:
oh, they're enablers, alright

they very actively enable and engage in enabling

enabling, y'know, is one of those trendy psycho-words

like co-dependent

and intervention

acorn gets an A+ in enabling

child prostitutes and human smugglers, that is

exactly how much all that enabling actually bore real results, well...

no one filmed that part

but one thing about acorn---they might not always succeed, but they sure TRY
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Ah I see when you fail to make your point you just keep repeating the same word over and over again as if you were ever right the first time. Again you have posted no proof that they enable child prostitution.
 
ah, but they tried

that makes em enablers

i think they need an intervention
 
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ah, but they tried

that makes em enablers

i think they need an intervention
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Tried at what? Helping a fake hooker and pimp? So you have nothing more than trying to do taxes for a nonexistent prostitution ring for a fake pimp and hooker. That's a far cry from enabling prostitution and human trafficking. Obviously you have a problem with what definitions of words actually mean. You also have the fillmmaker who is refusing to release the full footage from every office he visited.
 
PogueMoran said:
Tried at what?
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the community organizers tried to help set up a kiddie prostitution brothel which trafficked in kids smuggled in from latin america

not nice

few defend it
 
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The Prof said:
the community organizers tried to help set up a kiddie prostitution brothel which trafficked in kids smuggled in from latin america

not nice

few defend it
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No they did not. Do you have any proof of this? Or are you just pulling this out of your ass? You had a fake pimp and ho pretending to have a prostitution ring and they helped out with tax information. That's not setting up a brother or enabling something that was nonexistent. I'm sure you also believe that an employee killed her ex husband as well.
 
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You had a fake pimp and ho pretending to have a prostitution ring and they helped out with tax information.
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that's why they were fired

within hours

LOL!

it's cuz the community organizers TRY so hard

that's why they, the community organizers, are enablers

it's all in the EFFORT
 
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