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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you support the Constitution but you also support the bill of attainer against acorn
    that's a contradiction
    please point out evidence of the brownshirt-like behavior of acorn
    Sure, easy enough


    Corporate and political officials who defy workplace and community organizers risk being made objects of scorn by bright red-clad protestors in public and private, courtesy of an activist union and its close allies in the nation’s most controversial liberal non-profit advocacy group.

    It’s officially called the “Muscle for Money” program within the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) where it was started, and unofficially by the same name among activists of Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN).

    ACORN is under investigation in at least 14 states over voter registration fraud allegations stemming from the 2008 presidential campaign. The group endorsed President Barack Obama, despite federal laws barring partisan political activities by tax-exempt groups.

    Muscle for Money includes multiple techniques for creating highly aggressive, organized efforts both to pressure businesses and officials to support the activists’ agenda or to discredit and intimidate opponents of their agenda, according to present and former ACORN members.

    SEIU has funded Muscle for Money activities in the past and continues to finance corporate shakedown efforts across the country as part of this program. SEIU locals 100 and 880 have been identified as allied organizations on ACORN’s web site.

    That information has since been removed from the ACORN web site, but U.S. Department of Labor LM-2 financial disclosure forms
    show over $600,000 in transactions between these same locals and ACORN operations in recent years.


    ACORN?s ?Muscle for Money? does the bidding of SEIU | San Francisco Examiner

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sure, easy enough





    Next?


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    what do you mean "next"?

    you have yet to identify anything which approaches the behavior of a nazi brownshirt

    what you are opposed to is a strong organization that stays within the law but plays hardball on behalf of the underclass

    acorn is effective ... which appears to be the reason behind the whine

    so either identify true nazi brownshirt behavior or be found guilty of unfounded, misleading hyperbole

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    A couple of your neighbors have complained that you were speeding down the street the other day. So based on those allegations it's probably a good idea to impound your automobile. 'Just in case'......
    Eh...I can kinda see where you're coming from with this...though a citizen (me) would get INVESTIGATED by Police and if found to have broken the law THEN my license suspended or car towed, but as for ACORN the money they were receiving was hardly their "automobile" so suspension wouldn't cripple the organization, but I definitely see your point comparing abuse of a government granted privilege on the citizen level to the abuse of a government granted privilege on an organizational level.

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    oops,
    looks like congress was guilty of premature defunding
    A federal judge retained her position that it is unconstitutional for Congress to prevent funding for the activist group ACORN after a government request that she reconsider.

    U.S. District Judge Nina Gershon cemented her earlier decision in December and made the injunction permanent against government intervention permanent, asking all federal agencies to spread the word that money to ACORN be allowed without delay.

    The judge wrote that it was "unmistakable that Congress determined ACORN's guilt before defunding it." Congress may investigate ACORN but cannot "rely on the negative results of a congressional or executive report as a rationale to impose a broad, punitive funding ban on a specific, named organization."

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    "This is why the Constitution contains a prohibition against Congress enacting a bill of attainder – to prevent Congress from acting as judge jury and executioner," said Jules Lobel, a cooperating attorney with the center. ...
    [emphasis added by bubba]
    Judge says gov’t must allow funding for ACORN | Raw Story
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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    oops,
    looks like congress was guilty of premature defunding
    [emphasis added by bubba]
    Judge says gov’t must allow funding for ACORN | Raw Story
    This was pretty obvious to anybody who read the bill. ACORN was specifically mentioned in legislation. AKA a bill of attainder, which is illegal.

    Conservatives are against ACORN because ACORN pushes minorities to vote. Minorities tend to vote Democratic. Because of this, conservatives will look for reasons to attack ACORN, and when that fails, make **** up. (See: video from not-a-pimp, where police reviewed the unedited tape and found a totally different story)

    (See also: "Voter fraud," which was actually voter registration fraud on part of some of ACORNs volunteers, in which ACORN flagged the phony registrations and turned the culprits over to the police as the law requires them to do. Mickey Mouse did not show up to the polls to vote.)
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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    The travesty was that ACORN was ever defunded in the first place. They do many communities across this nation a great service.
    Like what?
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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Funny isn't it, how Obama had no problem with making null and void contracts with companies taking TARP funds, ya know, breaching contracts with employees and the like. However, it appears ACORN is not subject to that same mentality.
    I'm sorry, which contracts were those?

    Which employees specifically had their contracts voided by the U.S. government?

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I'm sorry, which contracts were those?

    Which employees specifically had their contracts voided by the U.S. government?
    Still waiting...

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like what?
    So you'll attack ACORN without even knowing what the organization DOES. Nice.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    I think this admin. has become comical at this point, I really didn't think we could get much worse, how very wrong I was.
    We have had much worse.... the last one.

    The regressives have done a very nice job vilifying an otherwise rather innocuous organization. Be happy with that accomplishment.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 03-13-10 at 08:51 PM.

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