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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    doug hoffman?

    LOL!

    it was ucla's advocate which sponsored the sting of planned parenthood

    that was a long time ago

    the abortionists turned out to be as big in the enabling dept as the community organizers

    except PP helps those who would off only black fetuses

    acorn enables those who'd traffic in kids for prostitution purposes

    ucla busted PP enablers of genocide in 6 states

    oh, my

    as ugly as a gun show

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    what an ugly image, the panties of the reich wing getting all twisted over this:
    A US District Court judge has granted a preliminary injunction against last September's defunding of anti-poverty group ACORN by a vote of Congress.

    ACORN had filed a lawsuit claiming that Congress's action violated the explicit Constitutional prohibition against bills of attainder -- punishments handed out to an isolated individual or group by legislative proceedings rather than through the courts.

    The judge agreed that "the plaintiffs have raised a fundamental issue of separation of powers. They have been singled out by Congress for punishment that directly and immediately affects their ability to continue to obtain federal funding, in the absence of any judicial, or administrative, process adjudicating guilt."
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    Judge grants injunction against Congressional defunding of ACORN. | Raw Story

    Constitutional safeguards at work, and a judge with the nads to apply them

    let the crying begin

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what an ugly image, the panties of the reich wing getting all twisted over this:
    Judge grants injunction against Congressional defunding of ACORN. | Raw Story

    Constitutional safeguards at work, and a judge with the nads to apply them

    let the crying begin

    So you think ACORN should receive our tax dollars while being under indictment in 14 states, and films of aiding a couple in starting up an underage prostitution ring?

    Yet, if a republican so much as sneezes while in any capacity you call for their total destruction......yeah sounds fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you think ACORN should receive our tax dollars while being under indictment in 14 states, and films of aiding a couple in starting up an underage prostitution ring?

    Yet, if a republican so much as sneezes while in any capacity you call for their total destruction......yeah sounds fair.

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    what other aspects of the Constitution do you oppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what other aspects of the Constitution do you oppose?

    I don't oppose the Constitution, I support it. Which is why I want groups like ACORN that would rather it be torn down, to be disbanded so that a group that may well have the peoples true interests at heart can flourish. ACORN, and SEIU are little more than todays version of the WWII era 'Brownshirts', enforcers for a Marxist agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't oppose the Constitution, I support it. Which is why I want groups like ACORN that would rather it be torn down, to be disbanded so that a group that may well have the peoples true interests at heart can flourish. ACORN, and SEIU are little more than todays version of the WWII era 'Brownshirts', enforcers for a Marxist agenda.

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    you support the Constitution but you also support the bill of attainer against acorn
    that's a contradiction
    please point out evidence of the brownshirt-like behavior of acorn

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you support the Constitution but you also support the bill of attainer against acorn
    that's a contradiction
    please point out evidence of the brownshirt-like behavior of acorn
    Being de-funded doesn't quite fall under a "Bill of Attainder" situation. They're removing funds because evidence surfaced of corruption. Now, I can see where that might be seen as punishment without trial, but I don't think you have the right to a trial when you are found to be corrupt, or rather have corrupt employees, while receiving funds from the Government. I don't really know though. I'm looking into it.

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Being de-funded doesn't quite fall under a "Bill of Attainder" situation. They're removing funds because evidence surfaced of corruption. Now, I can see where that might be seen as punishment without trial, but I don't think you have the right to a trial when you are found to be corrupt, or rather have corrupt employees, while receiving funds from the Government. I don't really know though. I'm looking into it.
    Its just too bad a federal judge disagrees with you. Everone deserves the right to a trial under our system regardless of how corrupt they are perceived. This was a bill of attainder it specifically singled out one group. Laws in our country are meant to be broad they cant hurt or help one entity or person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Its just too bad a federal judge disagrees with you. Everone deserves the right to a trial under our system regardless of how corrupt they are perceived. This was a bill of attainder it specifically singled out one group. Laws in our country are meant to be broad they cant hurt or help one entity or person.
    I'll reiterate my point slowly.

    If. the. funding. comes. with. special. terms. then. a. bill. of. attainder. is. not. relevant.

    I don't know for sure what the stipulations for the funding were, but I'm guessing that funding can be cut at any time if you violate a term of the contract or are found to be misappropriating the funds. Do the undercover videos qualify? Not by themselves, but with all the flak ACORN was catching, it's probably a good idea to suspend their funding until someone can figure out what was going on. Just in case.

    I'm still trying to find the terms and conditions of ACORN's funding anyways, but as of yet no luck.

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    Re: Justice Department Says Acorn Can Be Paid for Pre-Ban Contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86
    I don't know for sure what the stipulations for the funding were, but I'm guessing that funding can be cut at any time if you violate a term of the contract or are found to be misappropriating the funds.
    If the terms of their contracts were violated - sure suspend their funding. I feel certain that if they were, the Michelle Malkins of the right would have ferreted them out already.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86
    Do the undercover videos qualify? Not by themselves, but with all the flak ACORN was catching, it's probably a good idea to suspend their funding until someone can figure out what was going on. Just in case.
    A couple of your neighbors have complained that you were speeding down the street the other day. So based on those allegations it's probably a good idea to impound your automobile. 'Just in case'......
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