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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Rainbow? got pictures?
    Looked just like these two, except the short one was two inches longer.

    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Its also amazing how many people talk about the 10th amendment without referring to existing case law. For instance in wickard v filburn it was decided that congress could regulate wheat production on a family farm that was intended for personal consumption on the farm. Garcia v san antonio metro transit authority stated that federal minimum wage guidelines trumped the guidelines of the state and the feds werent encroaching on state sovereignty. In south dakota v dole the feds were allowed to dictate the legal drinking age to the states. Several exceptions have been used over the years them being the commerce clause, tax and spending clause and the necessary and proper clause.
    It amazes me that the courts get away with re-writing the constitution from the bench. I think the day of life time appointments to the SC need to go the way of the Dodo, it's obvious these clowns forget who they are.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Its also amazing how many people talk about the 10th amendment without referring to existing case law. For instance in wickard v filburn it was decided that congress could regulate wheat production on a family farm that was intended for personal consumption on the farm. Garcia v san antonio metro transit authority stated that federal minimum wage guidelines trumped the guidelines of the state and the feds werent encroaching on state sovereignty.
    These sorts of commerce clause interpretations are one of the main reasons we need to restore sanity on the Supreme Court. Don't you think it absurd to use an "interstate commerce" regulative authority to force a farmer to throw out crops he wants to grow for himself? Such a wide interpretation gives the feds the power to do just about anything they want, and that certainly wasn't the original intent.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    In south dakota v dole the feds were allowed to dictate the legal drinking age to the states.
    The feds didn't set the drinking age, they coerced the states into compliance by threatening economic sanctions.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Show me in the constitution where the government doesn't have the power to become an "equity owner” of any privately, or publicly held company.... good luck with that.
    Amendment 10:
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What say prof, should the contract be broken? Should the government be like the infamous REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA? Where they said that Congress should abide to all the laws that the rest of the country has to abide to?
    The Contract With America was the Republicans pledge "to bring to the floor [of the House] the ten bills, each to be given a full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote, and each to be immediately available for public inspection".

    The ten items were brought to a vote. Most of them passed the House.

    What's your problem, just basic ignorance and a heartfelt desire to repeat Democrat talking points because regurgitation is easier than thinking for yourself?

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Good. I hope they revoke the ACORN funding law or apply it to all contracts. It's obvious people were duped into believing something was wrong due to the actions of 3 or so people. The right wing fears the poor. If they are educated on their rights and given a chance to speak, they right wing knows they haven't a chance. I, for one, will be helping ACORN and supporting them financially for many years to come.
    "Duped"?

    You have no qualms about an organization with a corporate policy of encouraging child prostitution?

    You must be a Democrat.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Its also amazing how many people talk about the 10th amendment without referring to existing case law.
    That's because case law is bull****.

    Existing case law says that negroes are property and cannot be removed from their owners merely because said negro is taken to an non-slave state.

    A civil war changed that, not legal beagles.

    The Tenth Amendment says the federal government doesn't have the authority to assume powers not specifically granted it.

    Any case law that says otherwise is flat wrong.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    It amazes me that the courts get away with re-writing the constitution from the bench. I think the day of life time appointments to the SC need to go the way of the Dodo, it's obvious these clowns forget who they are.
    Bingo!

    I favor either 9 year or 18 year terms for Supreme Court justices.

    To remove the potential for more political games, I recommend that these justices not be eligible for re-nomination to any other federal judicial position.

    That would pretty much end the practice of socialist activist judges refusing to retire until their favorite liberal socialist scum-bucket America-hating president takes office, and allow the courts to get back to the job of intrepreting the law without politics.

    Life-time judgeships is one of the biggest mistakes the Founders made.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    These sorts of commerce clause interpretations are one of the main reasons we need to restore sanity on the Supreme Court. Don't you think it absurd to use an "interstate commerce" regulative authority to force a farmer to throw out crops he wants to grow for himself? Such a wide interpretation gives the feds the power to do just about anything they want, and that certainly wasn't the original intent.


    The feds didn't set the drinking age, they coerced the states into compliance by threatening economic sanctions.
    The Left, being ignorant of history, while chanting about "case law", sees no danger in allowing the federal government the power to bully the states.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Says Acorn Can Be Paid

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The Left, being ignorant of history, while chanting about "case law", sees no danger in allowing the federal government the power to bully the states.
    Or usurp any power by claiming it falls under some silly catch all clause.

    "With respect to the two words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison

    James Madison's view of the General Welfare Clause of Article 1. Section 8. This response is from a letter written to Edmund Pendleton on January 21, 1792;

    “Having not yet succeeded in hitting on an opportunity, I send you a part of it in a newspaper, which broaches a new Constitutional doctrine of vast consequence, and demanding the serious attention of the public. I consider it myself as subverting the fundamental and characteristic principle of the Government; as contrary to the true and fair, as well as the received construction, and as bidding defiance to the sense in which the Constitution is known to have been proposed, advocated, and adopted. If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions. It is to be remarked that the phrase out of which this doctrine is elaborated is copied from the old Articles of Confederation, where it was always understood as nothing more than a general caption to the specified powers."
    James Madison said that 'general welfare' not prescription for unlimited government
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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