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Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

Of course you realize that was a great recruiting tool for Charlie don’t you?

You mean the US media was on the side of the VC?

Surprise surprise surprise...it's not like the US Democrat-led Congress didn't hand Saigon to the North Vietnamese on a silver platter in 1974.
 
Putting things in perspective.

All the damn jackasses that are crying their eyes out over a terrorist getting a fat lip need to watch this video.
 
I'll apologize I'm being a jerk. I take back some of what I said. I havent studied enough to know much about how trade would be in the world without the United States Military. I'll be getting on that in the next semester or so.

You should drop out of college for a couple years and join the Marines.

That'll fix the errors in your world view and you'll grow a spine, too.
 
The media considers itself a watchdog,

Not any more, it doesn't, not for years and decades.

The little "never done anything useful" pukes in the media now consider themselves the movers and shapers of American society, dedicated to casting judgements on all events they disapprove of and punishing those they consider malefactors.

Hence, the media demands the resignation of Trent Lott for harmless comments at a birthday party but applauds Robert KKK Byrd.

The media wants to avoid the use of the phrase "muslim terrorist" in regards to the Fort Hood terrorist, but won't hesitate to call for the head of anyone giving a terrorist a fat lip in jail.

The media in the West is so biased, so biased against the causes of freedom, that it's plain they're an enemy that has to be confronted, no different than the terrorists they support on the battle field.
 
No, what I meant was what I said. What’s your expertise in Viet Nam, were you their, if so what years? :2wave:


I'm an American, have been all my life.

Since you're obviously not an American, from what basis are you whining about freedom?
 
So what do you think we should do when the military does something like Abu Gharib? Just give them a free pass? Just ignore it?

Medals would have been nice.

What's really significant is that the MEDIA, your buds, and you yourself, completely ignored the fact that the men responsible for the incident were let off without consequence and the soldiers following orders went to jail.

You people don't give a **** about what happened at Abu Graib, hell no. Worse things than anything that happened there are ROUTINE in your typical Iraqi prison. Your only interest lay in pushing a minor incident into some irressponsible embarassment for a president and country you hated and continue to hate.

That's the only reason you people have for making any issue about this terrorist's fat lip.

He's a terrorist.

Got it?


And what do you think would happen if our media didn't publicize Abu Gharib?

We'd have killed more terrorists more effectively.

When "the world" starts paying for it's own defense, "the world" can start having their opinions matter. Since we're covering "the world's" collectivized ass, "the world's" opinions matter no more than what the dung beetle pushes around.
 
Part of the problem is that the soldiers requested the court marshal. This is part of why I say that things don't add up right with the details known, and there is something going on we don't know about.

The accused obviously feel they did nothing wrong and don't want to lie down and have their careers ruined by false accusations from a muslim terroirist.

Sounds reasonable to me.
 
So I suspect you also agree that rule of law should be waived in this case?:roll:

If the rule of law was actually being enforced then you might have a point.

Under domestic and international law these SEALs would be totally justified in summarily executing any unlawful combatant captured on foreign soil. Since putting a bullet in his head would be totally justified, legally and morally, I think it's safe to assume that a punch in the lip should be no big deal.
 
What a ****ing joke. I buy US Military personal, as well as Police Officers and Fire Fighters beers when I meet them out. The PC Machine and the Media of the United States of America are treasonous pieces of crap that and don't know the first thing about good reporting anymore, if they ever did.
 
I remember seeing a docu about Kennedy's death. They captured Lee Harvey Oswald in a theatre....when being questioned...reporters asked him about his obviously reconfigured face. He's explaination was that a policeman had punched him.

I wonder, should we have prosecuted the police officer? Was their gut enough to actually press charges against the man who had punched the accused after the President had been shot?

Today...this man with a fat lip had hoisted men up on a bridge and burned the bodies. And we're prosecuting our soldiers....in the middle of a war....for enhancing the lower lip structure of our 'defendent' here?

This is the stuff you can point to in centuries past when someone interested in history asks what happened to the great American Democracy experiment.
 
You should drop out of college for a couple years and join the Marines.

That'll fix the errors in your world view and you'll grow a spine, too.

No, International political economics will do more for my worldview than bonding with rednecks with no education.

Also, as a socialist, under a socialist government, your inability to comply pleases me and I look forward to your rights being stripped from you.

HAW HAW!!:rofl

(its fo real. yup;))
 
No, International political economics will do more for my worldview than bonding with rednecks with no education.

You should recall what Dean Wormer said to Flounder.

Also, as a socialist, under a socialist government, your inability to comply pleases me and I look forward to your rights being stripped from you.

HAW HAW!!:rofl

(its fo real. yup;))

Yes, that's what we expect from socialists.

It's why we're not letting go of our guns.

Since you don't want to rub shoulders with Americans, where are you going to learn to shoot to defend your socialist lack-of-ideals?
 
You should recall what Dean Wormer said to Flounder.


Yes, that's what we expect from socialists.

It's why we're not letting go of our guns.

Since you don't want to rub shoulders with Americans, where are you going to learn to shoot to defend your socialist lack-of-ideals?

:lol:Good one!.....
 
Yes, that's what we expect from socialists.

It's why we're not letting go of our guns.

LOL it was a joke too. A serious response to a joke? I postulate what you believe is a joke, your affection for guns as some sort of protection against potential oppressive government is a joke, your political insanity in the face of a popularly elected government is a joke, your comparison of our leaders to fascist and communist megalomaniacal dictators of our past enemies is a joke, and not to mention offensive to true victims of communism and fascism.

Are the sons of the victims of communism and fascism in the east and europe pouring out love for you and your 'freedom' movement like people poured out for the green revolutionary youth in Iran? All over the world and internet?

No.Nope.No way. Ever wonder why?

I was in the army for a bit, this country certainly needs free higher education to raise the quality of its soldiers. Thats all I have to say.:2razz:
 
LOL it was a joke too. A serious response to a joke? I postulate what you believe is a joke, your affection for guns as some sort of protection against potential oppressive government is a joke,

So let's see....you're going to become a geek in political science...except that particular species of geek prefers the word "wonk", as if that makes any difference, and you're now confessing ignorance of the role firearms in the hands of the citizenry play in the establishment and perpetuation of free societies, such as umm....you ever hear of the great republic known as the United States of America?

your political insanity in the face of a popularly elected government is a joke,

Not too popular these days. There were riots when these elected officials went home to confront their constituencies with what they hoped was a done health care scam deal. And it seems the Messiah's pull at the polls can't carry any passengers, as the elections last month showed conclusively.

your comparison of our leaders to fascist and communist megalomaniacal dictators of our past enemies is a joke,

No, first off, I've made no such comparison in the post you're responding to, and if I had made such a comparison, ..... ummmm....who was it that fired GM's CEO again? Oh, yes, that was a fascist act by YOUR Messiah. Who appointed "pay czar"? Oh, yes, that was a fascist act by YOUR Messiah, too.

So, if I was going to start making historical comparisons with Mussolini, I've the factual basis to do so.

So the yolk's on you.

uh yuk yuk yuk.

and not to mention offensive to true victims of communism and fascism.

No one gives a **** about their feelings, if the mistake of socialism can be avoided in the United States.

Are the sons of the victims of communism and fascism in the east and europe pouring out love for you and your 'freedom'

Ask if I give a ****. That's the important question.

And so long as MY freedoms are preserved, I don't give a **** about their feelings or thoughts.

Welcome to the real America, something you ain't gonna find on no college campus.

Yeah, and I graduated from college, so it's not like slackers taking poly-sci or "international relations" are impressing me.

No.Nope.No way. Ever wonder why?

Nope, don't give a ****.

If they want to protest to become slaves, that's their problem, not mine, not until they take up arms to become my oppressor.

I was in the army for a bit, this country certainly needs free higher education to raise the quality of its soldiers. Thats all I have to say.:2razz:

How much "higher education" does it take to send the bullet where it needs to go? Heck, the military trains the best damn nuclear reactor operators in the world, and they have nothing but your basic high school diploma to start with.

And tanks and airplanes are far less complicated than nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.
 
You're siding with the terrorists.

Not that it's anything unusuall. Your Messiah is giving them the opportunity to have a Defense by Diatribe in New York.

If siding with Rule of Law is "siding with the terrorists", so be it. Rule of Law is the foundation this country was founded on, more than any other factor. I hope that they get off for something like this, but if it violates the USMJ, so be it. Those are the rules. I'm sorry, but you're arguing against the basis of all republicanism if you argue against Rule of Law in all situations.
 
I'm an American, have been all my life.

Since you're obviously not an American, from what basis are you whining about freedom?

Wow,looks like you got a express shipment of ad homs on cyber monday eh?

Look at my post number # 62, then take another look at the "Eddie Adams" photo(who later apologized to General Nguyen) then tell me it wasn't propaganda for Charlie.

By the way this "American" was in country at the time this photo was taken.
 
If siding with Rule of Law is "siding with the terrorists", so be it. Rule of Law is the foundation this country was founded on, more than any other factor. I hope that they get off for something like this, but if it violates the USMJ, so be it. Those are the rules. I'm sorry, but you're arguing against the basis of all republicanism if you argue against Rule of Law in all situations.

Not when those laws are over-used to the point that an American soldiers is afraid to pull the trigger on a bag guy, because he might be charged with some chicken **** war crime.

It's a war, people get killed, people get hurt, deal with it.
 
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