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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Also I dare you to go up and call any SP a Scum bag make sure we get a nice video of your arse kicking so we can all laught at your dumbarse
    I don't call people names for no good reason, boo. I shouldn't have implied that the three accused were scumbags. They are innocent until proven guilty.

    On the other hand, illegal conduct cannot be excused just because they are Special Forces. Over the years, Special Forces soldiers have be convicted of everything from murder to bank robbers.
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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Flogging a terrorist is not newsworthy......

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think they should be given a medal for catching this scum bag......I wonder how many innocent people he has killed............
    If they deserve a medal, they should get it. If they broke the law, they should be prosecuted.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    If they deserve a medal, they should get it. If they broke the law, they should be prosecuted.
    A liberal siding with a scumbag over that of our service men and women(or sometimes law enforcement), why does that sound so cliche?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Punching a mass murderer in the face?
    Assaulting a man in custody is cowardly, bro.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Do you demand that the receive a civilian trial?
    Violations of the UCMJ are not tried in civilian courts, boo.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Assaulting a man in custody is cowardly, bro.
    It's better just to blow his brains out, boo.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Assaulting a man in custody is cowardly, bro.
    Nowhere has the military stated he was already in custody when the alledged incident occured.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I just finished looking at every news-story and blog-article listed at Google News concerning this. They basically all say what was reported in this thread OP. According to the US military, three Navy Seal commando's have been officially charged with “abusing a detainee” and “falsifying official documents”. The initial charge stems from an abuse complaint filed by the terrorist himself. The secondary charge is a consequence of the initial abuse charge.

    People can only go by what the military itself has stated. Either the military is witholding pertinint information on this case, or the military is engaged in a ridiculous and petty application of political correctness as reported.

    Neither scenario is very comforting.
    From what I can find, every source is referencing the FOX story. I am not finding any actual additional information. If you did, I would love a link please so I can read more.

    This quote is from the FOX story:

    United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.
    In point of fact, there is a distinct lack of the military's side of the story. That and the fact that what is presented is presented in a very one sided manner suggests that there is a good chance that there is important details we do not know. I find it unlikely that a "bloody lip" would result in even NJP under most circumstances.

    If I had to make a guess, and I emphasize this is just a guess, what happened is the guys got a little carried away with Ahmed Hashim Abed, knocked him around a bit. He complained to the Iraqi's, who passed it along to the US, who decided to do a token investigation. The Seals lied about it, and the lie came out. They are now in trouble not for knocking Abed around a bit, but for lying to an investigation, which is serious. If they had been honest with the investigation, I am betting they would never have gotten more than a little extra duty and an ass chewing, which is the most it would be worth. The US liaison with the Iraqi's goes back and reports that the offenders where punished, and that ends it. As happens far too often, it's the coverup that is the big problem.

    I repeat again, the above paragraph is just a guess, based on what little information that is available that I have found. If you have more information, I would love to see it. I also want to repeat that even if all the above paragraph is basically accurate, I still don't think much should be done to the Seals. You have to do something, both because you cannot allow people to get away with lying to an investigation, and because you do not reward people for pushing something to a court marshal. 60/60 sound about right, it hurts, but only for a little while.

    What I also want to emphasize here is I am not saying this is not messed up, nor am I saying anything concrete really except I do not think we have enough information to rush to a judgment.
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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Nowhere has the military stated he was already in custody when the alledged incident occured.
    Good point. They may be totally innocent, or they may be complete fools for not accepting the NJP. Who really knows?

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