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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I suspect there is more to the story than we know. Let's look at the charges:



    From that, I would guess that the reason they where charged is not that they roughed him up a bit, but that they lied about it.
    Do you demand that the receive a civilian trial?

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    For now it seems there are many unpleasant things at work not the least of which is the disciple like worship of Obams in part because so many still hate Bush and refuse to see what is clear to some. Then there is the fear some have of being called racist for opposing Obama on any level. Those people like to call names point fingers and project their own hateful feeling on to others. So stinking terrorist got a flat lip. He's lucky to be alive. And since when to the rules domestic police operate under extend over seas and to the enemy. This is BS just like Obama moving the GITMO 5 to N.Y. so they can be released. If that happens and these SEALs are convicted there is going to be trouble and it most likely could get ugly. A lot of people are frightened at the direction we are being pushed into and I fear the push back will not be pretty. I just pray that people will use the 2010 elections to vent their anger. Another fear i have is that the Senior Officers in the Military will decide to bail rather than continue to follow the orders of a rank amateur who is seemly uninterested in doing the right thing at any level.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    an indicator of the times we live in.

    The President pardons a turkey.


    Seals doing their duty go to court martial.

    Disgusting.
    Are you really trying to turn Obama pardoning a Turkey, a harmless and fun tradition, into political fodder? That's just pathetic.
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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    This is how I see it: there are rules, including rules following military conduct. These rules must be followed as closely as possible. If you break the rules, you should be punished unless you can show there were extenuating circumstances. If doesn't matter whether this scum bag deserved to be punched, if the rules say you don't punch him, you don't punch him because it is the rules. If the rule is unfair you try to change it, but you obey it until then.
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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I suspect there is more to the story than we know. Let's look at the charges:



    From that, I would guess that the reason they where charged is not that they roughed him up a bit, but that they lied about it.
    They're being put on trial for giving an enemy a bloody lip.

    I'd be falsifying official documents all over the place if that's what happens when the men do their duty properly.

    And yes, bitch slapping a prisoner who was trying to kill you and who doesn't know when to shut up is perfectly acceptable behavior for warriors.

    Not for cops, but it's just fine and dandy, expected even, for warriors when their blood is up.

    What's the big deal?

    OH! I know! Let's create a domestic climate so the warriors feel their own side is out to get them, and will punish them if they take prisoners. So they'll kill prisoners instead of going to the bother of dragging them in.

    Seriously, I've no problem with that. The best terrorists are the dead terrorists, after all. Why starve the worms and buzzards?

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If all he got was a bloody lip from the deal, then que sera sera. I mean, it would have been different if he came out with all sorts of busted bones and ****. But a bloody lip, that's nothing.
    So long as he lived long enough to be hanged, what difference does a few broken bones make?

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    If he committed those offenses, he should be prosecuted. If convicted, he should be punished.

    I hate to admit it, but there are some scumbags in Special Forces, just like in any other occupation.
    No.

    The criminal in this story is the officer or enlistee that reported the terrorists sad little tale about getting punched in the face. THAT man should be identified and sent into the field with Special Ops men, and continue to be sent out until he doesn't return.

    The Correct Response to the Scenario:

    Terrorist Prisoner: They beat me up! I want to complain! See? I have a fat lip!

    Guard: Didn't your mother tell you to not run into walls? Shut up, or your other lip will get punched, too.

    Gee, suddenly there's no story. It's not like the terrorist suffered anything.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    The criminal in this story is the officer or enlistee that reported the terrorists sad little tale about getting punched in the face. THAT man should be identified and sent into the field with Special Ops men, and continue to be sent out until he doesn't return.

    The Correct Response to the Scenario:

    Terrorist Prisoner: They beat me up! I want to complain! See? I have a fat lip!

    Guard: Didn't your mother tell you to not run into walls? Shut up, or your other lip will get punched, too.

    Gee, suddenly there's no story. It's not like the terrorist suffered anything.
    Why don't you believe in rule of law?
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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    IF they were guilty of those charges, then they wouldn't have been brought up for NJP, it would have been a Court Marshal from the word go.
    No, I don't think so. In fact, the command would have felt that offering NJP was a way to slap the wrists and avoid the stink. Now they got the stink.

    If the courts martial convicts, it's political hay with the conservatives in Congress and the Americans.

    If the men are acquitted, the Messiah and his cronies will seek to wreck the careers of the officers sitting in judgement.

    So they're going to be convicted in all likelihood. What the hell, the time-honored tradition in the military is screw the enlistees. This isn't going to be any different.

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    Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Why don't you believe in rule of law?
    I do.

    The law of nature says that animals don't have rights.

    Since terrorists are animals, they don't have rights.

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