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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Why is it stupid for him to carefully assess the situation from all sides - military and political - before making a informed decision on how to proceed?

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    No. I appear to be the only person on this forum capable of admitting an obviously glaring truth:

    Afghanistan doesn't have a viable export that can be used to generate monies to provide opportunities to its people better then those the insurgents can. It's why Bush never dealt with it in 7 years. Because it doesn't exist. Replacing Bush with Obama does not change this core central fact. What bothers me is that the partisans here don't understand what should be a really, really, really simple concept. But apparently if Obama is now dealing with the same problem Bush never fixed, only Obama deserves criticism. Frankly, neither of them deserve criticism because the problem cannot be fixed.

    Hyperpartisan hypocritical loonies are everywhere here.
    Problem is that Afghanistan is where the 911 attacks were launched from. If we had taken out bin Laden from the get-go, we could then have gone home in victory. Now we have Obama, who is going to do the same half-assed job Bush did.

    Afghanistan was supposed to have been the "good war", where America would exact a heavy price on those who chose to screw with us. We should have bombed the whole country back into the stone age, then left, with a warning that, should another 911 ever happen again, the country responsible would be turned forever into a glassed-over, radioactive desert.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why is it stupid for him to carefully assess the situation from all sides - military and political - before making a informed decision on how to proceed?
    Because, as someone whose supposed to be a leader, he needs to display some decisiveness and the ability to think on his feet. What PBO has done was prove that he doesn't possess either quality and tried to pass it off as being careful. Caution is a bad thing in warfare. It sucks when politicians worry more about their politics than they do about their soldiers that on the battlefield.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why is it stupid for him to carefully assess the situation from all sides - military and political - before making a informed decision on how to proceed?
    because he strokes his chin so publicly, as indecesive as imelda marcos in a shoe store

    he leaks contradictory "resolves" every few days

    he disputes in the open with his commander in the field and his own defense secty

    he undermines the confidence in our commitment of the indigenous

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because, as someone whose supposed to be a leader, he needs to display some decisiveness and the ability to think on his feet. What PBO has done was prove that he doesn't possess either quality and tried to pass it off as being careful. Caution is a bad thing in warfare. It sucks when politicians worry more about their politics than they do about their soldiers that on the battlefield.
    It's better to be stupid than rational. It's better to be rash than thoughtful. It's better to be wrong than right.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    it's better to LOOK like a president than a fool

    particularly if you occupy the oval office

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's better to be stupid than rational. It's better to be rash than thoughtful. It's better to be wrong than right.

    Apdst has strange views, and lives in a strange world.
    Warfare is an irrational business. What's normal on mainstreet is irrational on the battlefield. Too bad your personal attack blew up in your face.

    Allow me quote General Patton:

    The first objective of any fighting force, is to do more damage, in less time, than the enemy
    PBO has failed to live up to that axiom.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    He wouldn't be the first president or world leader to do that. Granted, at least he's not taking troops away from hunting down Bin Laden like a former president did.

    For everyone that criticizes Obama on this, why have none of them actually addressed the real problem of lack of development that also existed under Bush?

    Seems to me this is just another pathetic veiled partisan mode of attack.
    You have clear evidence that he took troops away from that specific mission, which had adverse effects?
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Originally Posted by obvious Child
    He wouldn't be the first president or world leader to do that. Granted, at least he's not taking troops away from hunting down Bin Laden like a former president did.
    Bush didn't take troops away from hunting UBL.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    he's between a rock and a hard place.....damned if he does.......


    can you imagine the outcry if we pulled out completely right now?
    The outcry would be wholly justified. An immediate pullout would be catastrophic, both at home and abroad. If America withdraws to its borders en masse, expect the terrorists to:

    a. Declare victory against America. This will reinvigorate their followers and help increase their ranks.

    b. Consolidate their forces; rest, replenish, and reorganize. Prepare for the campaign in Western homelands, namely the United States.

    c. Sabotage key infrastructure and kill as many civilians as possible until every last infidel is dead or converted; remember 9/11?

    Withdrawing from the Middle East is exactly what the enemy wants us to do.

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