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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, but I'm not leaving just because it's "hard". The more dedicated we are to it, the shorter it'll be.

    For that matter, we're still in Germany. We're still in Korea. We're still in Japan.
    And we should not be in any of those countries, these are just prime examples that the taliban will use to continue to recruit....

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

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    And we should not be in any of those countries, these are just prime examples that the taliban will use to continue to recruit....
    Well, maybe we can kill 'em as they recuit 'em.

    I also like that it gives us a base in the middle east from which to hold Iran, Syria, and others in check, but that's a semi-unintended consequence.

    Have you noticed how quiet Syria has been since we landed in Iraq?

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    good question. india?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    good question. india?
    So what's the difference? Again, Afghanistan barely qualified as a country. It's like occupying Antartica.

    I don't really remember seeing Afghanistant sport a team in the Olympics or hold an election before we got there.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    This is good news.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And now McClatchey and others are claiming that "finish the job" means "34,000 more troops"

    Obama plans to send 34,000 more troops to Afghanistan | McClatchy

    Obama's come out to deny every one of these trial balloons so far, so I'm not putting much stock in this one yet.
    Some fascinating stuff in that article.

    The administration's plan contains "off-ramps," points starting next June at which Obama could decide to continue the flow of troops, halt the deployments and adopt a more limited strategy or "begin looking very quickly at exiting" the country, depending on political and military progress, one defense official said.

    "We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it," the U.S. defense official said.

    It's "not just how we get people there, but what's the strategy for getting them out," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday.
    However, just now on Hardball, they are saying that there are no hard deadlines, so not sure on all this. However, I do think we ned to set goals, and if we cannot meet the goals, in particular political ones, it might be time to start getting out.

    As part of its new plan, the administration, which remains skeptical of Karzai, will "work around him" by working directly with provincial and district leaders, a senior U.S. defense official told McClatchy.
    I find that fascinating, and really points to the trouble with the whole war in Afghanistan.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34123718/ns/politics-white_house

    Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan


    Does anyone think this can end well, or soon? I can't imagine a scenario that works.
    It can, but PBO ain't the man for the job. He made that statement today to take the heat off the fact that he's totally screwing the pooch.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    he's between a rock and a hard place.....damned if he does.......


    can you imagine the outcry if we pulled out completely right now?
    It would be the single biggest mistake of his presidency. It would definitely put him up there as the only president in history that retreated from a battlefield.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    I must be the only person here who thinks Pres. Obama has done the right thing with Afghanistan by taking his time, pulling together his war cabinet staff, discussing matters with those nations that have a vested interest in how this War in Afghanistan plays out, i.e., Pakistan, India, England and even NATO, and reviewing every detail no matter how trivial it might seem in an effort to come up with a comprehensive strategy to stablize that country and place them on a footing to better government themselves.

    As much as many would like to think otherwise, the War on Terror isn't an American war; the lives of many foreign nations were lost on 9/11. As such, the soveignty of several nations were brought into the frey on that dreadful day. It's only right that more nations reaffirm their commitment to halt terrorism in the region and bring a end to this war.

    I think he has done the right thing in putting pressure on Pakistan to do alot more to combat terrorism in the south-west region where Taliban and Al Quaida are reportedly holding up, using that area as a safe haven. Why keep giving them millions of U.S. dollars if they're not going to step up to the plate? Perhaps most people overlooked this, but have you noticed how the Pakistan military has taken the fight to the Taliban of late rather than sitting back and waiting for the next terrorist act to occur? Have you noticed that British and NATO forces have begun to get more involved in the fighting? But more important, have you noticed reports coming out of Afghanistan itself where more training of local police and military forces is taking place and that more Afghan security personnel are patrolling the streets where U.S./coalition forces have strongholds?

    I'm a long way from praising our President, but I think he has done the right thing here in taking the time to re-evaluate what's really going on over there and working with all entities to find a better way to fight this war and win it.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    [/b]I must be the only person here who thinks Pres. Obama has done the right thing with Afghanistan by taking his time[/b], pulling together his war cabinet staff, discussing matters with those nations that have a vested interest in how this War in Afghanistan plays out, i.e., Pakistan, India, England and even NATO, and reviewing every detail no matter how trivial it might seem in an effort to come up with a comprehensive strategy to stablize that country and place them on a footing to better government themselves.

    As much as many would like to think otherwise, the War on Terror isn't an American war; the lives of many foreign nations were lost on 9/11. As such, the soveignty of several nations were brought into the frey on that dreadful day. It's only right that more nations reaffirm their commitment to halt terrorism in the region and bring a end to this war.

    I think he has done the right thing in putting pressure on Pakistan to do alot more to combat terrorism in the south-west region where Taliban and Al Quaida are reportedly holding up, using that area as a safe haven. Why keep giving them millions of U.S. dollars if they're not going to step up to the plate? Perhaps most people overlooked this, but have you noticed how the Pakistan military has taken the fight to the Taliban of late rather than sitting back and waiting for the next terrorist act to occur? Have you noticed that British and NATO forces have begun to get more involved in the fighting? But more important, have you noticed reports coming out of Afghanistan itself where more training of local police and military forces is taking place and that more Afghan security personnel are patrolling the streets where U.S./coalition forces have strongholds?

    I'm a long way from praising our President, but I think he has done the right thing here in taking the time to re-evaluate what's really going on over there and working with all entities to find a better way to fight this war and win it.
    No, you're not the only one that believes that stupid assed notion.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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