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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Strawman.
    Why do you keep stating this? Do you know what a strawman is? Please tell me you do because you keep throwing it out like you know what it is.

    300,000,000 is merely the use of an unrealistic inflated number. That assumes that even infants could buy it, and a copy for each person in a family that might share a book. Totally ridiculous. Your point is irrelevant anyway, if it becomes a best seller it will be as relevant as any other best seller.
    Thank you for supporting my point and ignoring the crux of the argument while you're busy trying to act like you know what a straw man is. How many best sellers could you name? A few dozen maybe? Out of how many thousands? Best seller is merely a term used by book dealers to determine popular books from others which aren't. Popularity and relevancy are not the same thing and you establish this by saying 'it'll be as relevant as any other best seller'.

    There are thousands of best selling books in EVERY genre from cooking to science fiction. These books have been bought by thousands and their popularity is unquestionable, the fact that they have been bought by droves does not establish any kind of relevancy. It establishes popularity.

    Now to explain to you what a straw man is. I brought up the 300,000,000 figure in a related example(see Ralph Nader). I never stated that 300,000,000 people needed to buy Palin's book for it to become relevant. What I stated was that popularity does not equal to relevancy specially in a world where 'best sellers' number in the thousands and are subjectively defined by each independent dealer. Hopefully this explains to you what a straw man is.
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why do you keep stating this? Do you know what a strawman is? Please tell me you do because you keep throwing it out like you know what it is.



    Thank you for supporting my point and ignoring the crux of the argument while you're busy trying to act like you know what a straw man is. How many best sellers could you name? A few dozen maybe? Out of how many thousands? Best seller is merely a term used by book dealers to determine popular books from others which aren't. Popularity and relevancy are not the same thing and you establish this by saying 'it'll be as relevant as any other best seller'.

    There are thousands of best selling books in EVERY genre from cooking to science fiction. These books have been bought by thousands and their popularity is unquestionable, the fact that they have been bought by droves does not establish any kind of relevancy. It establishes popularity.

    Now to explain to you what a straw man is. I brought up the 300,000,000 figure in a related example(see Ralph Nader). I never stated that 300,000,000 people needed to buy Palin's book for it to become relevant. What I stated was that popularity does not equal to relevancy specially in a world where 'best sellers' number in the thousands and are subjectively defined by each independent dealer. Hopefully this explains to you what a straw man is.
    You know young hatuey, you want to make some bull**** argument about Palin's book. Grow ****ing up, nobody gives a **** about your point...and there isn't one anyway. I'm done here.
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You say that when the liberal media show they are obsessed with bashing her?
    It's not just the "Liberal media". There are plenty of Conservatives who can't stand the woman. What is your point?

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It's not just the "Liberal media". There are plenty of Conservatives who can't stand the woman. What is your point?
    Name them all, remember we have 300,000,000 citizens according to Hatuey, so the few you list will mean nothing.
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Name them all, remember we have 300,000,000 citizens according to Hatuey, so the few you list will mean nothing.
    My only point is that many Palin supporters are trying to paint the Palin haters as Liberals only, which I think is quite disingenuous.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    I think if this thread reaches 10 pages I'm going to puke.
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    My only point is that many Palin supporters are trying to paint the Palin haters as Liberals only, which I think is quite disingenuous.
    I think it's mostly accurate, there aren't that many that hate her on the right. She's the only thing that kept the McCain campaign from being a bigger failure than it was.

    Come on Page 10!!!!
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it's mostly accurate, there aren't that many that hate her on the right. She's the only thing that kept the McCain campaign from being a bigger failure than it was.

    Come on Page 10!!!!
    I disagree. I think she ended up hurting McCain more than anything. Or rather, McCain hurt himself by choosing her as a running mate. All of the criticisms directed at her, legitimate or not, ended up hurting McCain's chances.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I disagree. I think she ended up hurting McCain more than anything. Or rather, McCain hurt himself by choosing her as a running mate. All of the criticisms directed at her, legitimate or not, ended up hurting McCain's chances.
    In looking at the difference in her behavior during the presidential race and her governorship in Alaska, I can only think the McCain campaign had a hand in ruining her career, too.

    That was NOT the Sarah Palin I voted for as governor.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know young hatuey, you want to make some bull**** argument about Palin's book. Grow ****ing up, nobody gives a **** about your point...and there isn't one anyway. I'm done here.
    I accept your choice to quit the way Alaskan voters accepted Palin's choice to quit.
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