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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Of course many people use ghost writers. It's not a big deal. However, I can certainly understand her comment considering that you said that Palin herself was a good writer. Does that mean Palin is stupid or incapable of writing? No, it doesn't.
    Have you or are you reading the book?
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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your inability to understand what a strawman argument actually is astounds me. The OP asserted that 700,000 books supports the claim of relevancy of the author. What I've established is that in a country where there are 300,000,000 million citizens somebody selling 700,000 books means absolutely nothing in regards to relevancy. To support this I've brought up examples of people having what may seem like 'many' supporters but still being irrelevant in the long run. Would you like for me to explain what a strawman argument actually is or would you like to stick to one liners from now on so that I don't notice you enough to make you look silly?
    That's a completely false assertion. 700k books in the first week is a phenomenal number but it still isn't reflective of just how many people actually support her politically. If you want to address her political relevancy with any honesty, it would be much more constructive to address how many of the 300,000,000 citizens are of voting age, are actually registered to vote, claim support for her.

    Nader was never irrelevant. Nader may not have had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but he was considered a relevant factor, even if it was just speculation on how badly he would split the vote.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Have you or are you reading the book?
    I am actually quite curious to read it. Once the price goes down I'll probably get it and read it. Why?

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    You're referring to Lynn Vincent, Palin's ghostwriter, correct?

    Kind of like Bill Ayers writing Dreams for Obama isn't it? that doesn't seem to bother you much. Correct?


    The "success" of such books comes largely from the Conservative Book Club, Scaife-funded NewsMax, and other partisan organizations who buy in bulk and essentially give them away.

    do you have numbers showing that is how this book was so successful?


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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I am actually quite curious to read it. Once the price goes down I'll probably get it and read it. Why?
    It's been a bit lackluster, in my opinion.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's been a bit lackluster, in my opinion.

    how so?


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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So lots of people have ghostwriters, that in no way proves they were literary lemmings to the ghostwriter.
    Sir, I AM a ghostwriter. It's what I do for a living.

    Here's how it works: the person who cannot write gives general information, some quotes, and a few interesting anecdotes to the writer, who then does research and crafts the non-writer's ideas into coherent sentences / paragraphs / chapters. The non-writer then reviews the draft, making occasional edits to tone or intent. There is, in fact, little to no actual writing done by the "author" in such cases - it's 99% ghostwriter.

    You said that Palin was a good writer; the simple fact is, she didn't write the book.


    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't suppose Glenda would like to acknowledge Hillary and Bill Clinton's use of ghostwriters?
    How the hell did the Clintons get into this?

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    how so?


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    It's pretty dull and actually kinda whiny. I don't know what I was expecting but...some attention to her political stances or what. It seems to take a blaming tone and much more combative than I thought it needed to be.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Kind of like Bill Ayers writing Dreams for Obama isn't it? that doesn't seem to bother you much. Correct?
    This is the first time I've heard the claim that Bill Ayers ghostwrote Obama's book Dreams From My Father. Do you have any legitimate documentation to prove this?

    Regardless, no, I'm not remotely bothered by anyone using a ghostwriter. If people didn't, I'd be in a world of hurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    do you have numbers showing that is how this book was so successful?
    Nope, not now. The latest NYT Political Best Sellers list (which includes information about bulk sales) doesn't currently include Going Rogue. Can you prove bulk sales are NOT jacking up the total sales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Once the price goes down I'll probably get it and read it.
    No need to spend $28.99, or to wait. As of November 16, Walmart.com was selling the book for $8.98, Target.com was selling it for $8.99, and Amazon was selling it for $9.You can also pick up the book for $4.97 at Newsmax.com.

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    Re: AP source: Palin book sells big in first week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, we get it. You like Sarah Palin. It's also obvious by now that anything said that doesn't involve praise of the woman, you will take as a personal attack or insult. I know it's hard for you to get around using regurgitated talking points, but please try.
    You say that when the liberal media show they are obsessed with bashing her?

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