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The 'Real' Jobless Rate: 17.5% Of Workers Are Unemployed

Sometimes, not always. Oversimplification is a sign of a weak mind sometimes too.
Very creative with the personal attack, but a personal attack nonetheless. Reported.
 
There's always the Military, McDonald's, Contracting agencies where you can work McDonald's overseas. You can start your own business, (97% of the Economy is Small Business), go to school to get a degree (on the Government's dime no less!). There are jobs out there. Before I moved I had two jobs, one cleaning carpets and one at a coffee shop. Each job took me less than a month to get and I kept them amidst other, lazier, employees getting laid off.


The Unemployment rate shouldn't be this high, period. No matter who's fault it is. If my ill-motivated ass can get two jobs, then almost anyone can get a job.
 
There's always the Military, McDonald's, Contracting agencies where you can work McDonald's overseas. You can start your own business, (97% of the Economy is Small Business), go to school to get a degree (on the Government's dime no less!). There are jobs out there. Before I moved I had two jobs, one cleaning carpets and one at a coffee shop. Each job took me less than a month to get and I kept them amidst other, lazier, employees getting laid off.


The Unemployment rate shouldn't be this high, period. No matter who's fault it is. If my ill-motivated ass can get two jobs, then almost anyone can get a job.

Ha.... Are you aware of what constitutes cyclical unemployment?
 
Ha.... Are you aware of what constitutes cyclical unemployment?

That's why I listed mostly businesses that have a high employment/turnover rate regardless of how the economy is doing. It's not hard to get or keep a job at McDonalds, and guess what, it's a stepping stone. People in this country feel like they're entitled and they aren't entitled to jack ****. You have to WORK to make money to spend to boost the economy. no amount of government stimulus is going to do the work that can best be done by someone who goes out, works, and then spends that money in the economy. But whatev, I'm no econ major.


Do you have a job?
 
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That's why I listed mostly businesses that have a high employment/turnover rate regardless of how the economy is doing. It's not hard to get or keep a job at McDonalds, and guess what, it's a stepping stone. People in this country feel like they're entitled and they aren't entitled to jack ****. You have to WORK to make money to spend to boost the economy. no amount of government stimulus is going to do the work that can best be done by someone who goes out, works, and then spends that money in the economy. But whatev, I'm no econ major.


Do you have a job?

Nobody employee's me if that is what you are asking, although i am not worried about obtaining unemployment:2razz:

My issue is this: if a family of 4 loses it's primary source of income McDonald's or the military is kinda out of the question.
 
Nobody employee's me if that is what you are asking, although i am not worried about obtaining unemployment:2razz:

My issue is this: if a family of 4 loses it's primary source of income McDonald's or the military is kinda out of the question.

1. **** happens, but we have to deal with it as best we can. that's Life. (It's not fair, ever.)

2. Good that you aren't pulling unemployment, but what are you putting INTO the economy? C'mon you have to spend a little money somewhere...
 
1. **** happens, but we have to deal with it as best we can. that's Life. (It's not fair, ever.)

Never said that it didn't. Although i view it as frivilous to state unemployment is a measure of laziness (absurd really)....

2. Good that you aren't pulling unemployment, but what are you putting INTO the economy? C'mon you have to spend a little money somewhere...

I do not need to pull unemployment, as i have an income.
 
Seriously?

This is exceedingly old news.

America's real unemployment rate. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine

That was in 2004.

When did they start monkeying around this? I know it was before Clinton came to power. His numbers were total crap due to the recalculation of the rate. Might have been during Reagan, especially since his flooding the market with money during inflation did not help
 
So you think "unemployed" should be defined as "Discouraged workers who have quit trying to find a job, as well as those working part-time but looking for full-time work or who are otherwise underemployed."

Obviously you can tell why there is such a big discrepancy in the reporting of "unemployment."

Is it safe to say that this was your attempt to expose the liberal media? :2wave:

There has to be some definition. I mean retired b people are unemployed but should they be included in the numbers? Most would say no. The real issue is that different formulas are used between now and in the thirties so it's hard to make a direct comparison. Not surprising, it's typical GOVCO semantics. The President doesn't want to be the one that has an unemployment rate equal to or greater than the great depression.
 
What are you doing with that income, if you don't mind me asking.

Investing, consuming, saving, etc.... Like any normal person. I am self employed BTW.
 
Investing, consuming, saving, etc.... Like any normal person. I am self employed BTW.

ha, I'd say above average person if you're investing. :D Most people don't know how to live within their means let alone invest properly.
 
Funny how when people brought up this form of measurement under Bush then they were attacked and dismissed by the right.. who now likes using it.. pathetic.
 
Funny how when people brought up this form of measurement under Bush then they were attacked and dismissed by the right.. who now likes using it.. pathetic.

I don't remember people doing that, but the problem of people giving up on looking on work is probably greater during a recession than in good times. This number is probably better and I'd be happier if it was always used instead of our current measure.
 
Funny how when people brought up this form of measurement under Bush then they were attacked and dismissed by the right.. who now likes using it.. pathetic.

News Flash: That's par for the course with politics.
 
I don't remember people doing that, but the problem of people giving up on looking on work is probably greater during a recession than in good times. This number is probably better and I'd be happier if it was always used instead of our current measure.

Look up any debate we have had on unemployment numbers and comparisons with the US and Europe and you will see it.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/42197-us-job-losses-hit-record-2008-a.html

just a recent one.
 
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Well he does have a point. Unemployment and underemployment can kind of get blended since some people would rather be unemplyed than underemployed. That said, we need a measure that records both unemployment and underemployment and we need to stay consistent with it so that we can compare time periods.
 
Well he does have a point. Unemployment and underemployment can kind of get blended since some people would rather be unemplyed than underemployed. That said, we need a measure that records both unemployment and underemployment and we need to stay consistent with it so that we can compare time periods.

We need slavery. Let's face it. It gets **** done.
 
So how does it feel pay my and Hellhound's salary (when he was in) while you are struggling for jobs? muahaha. feed me my minions, feed me.:twisted:
 
SOLUTION: Ship every illegal immigrant back to their country of origin, whether they have spit out an anchor baby or not.....;)
Every time one of the large companies fire their illegal work force in order to avoid prosecution, those jobs are filled, PRONTO.....;)
The problem is that we are not booting them out, like they should be...
Since so many of them love tattoos, I think REJECTED should be tattooed on their foreheads to prevent illegal re-entry....;)
 
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SOLUTION: Ship every illegal immigrant back to their country of origin, whether they have spit out an anchor baby or not.....;)
Every time one of the large companies fire their illegal work force in order to avoid prosecution, those jobs are filled, PRONTO.....;)
The problem is that we are not booting them out, like they should be...
Since so many of them love tattoos, I think REJECTED should be tattooed on their foreheads to prevent illegal re-entry....;)

Your classic scapegoat failure:mrgreen:
 
Your classic scapegoat failure:mrgreen:

I fail to see how a soloution is a failure....
Illegal immigrants filling low wage jobs is one of the reasons for the high unemployment rate among young black males...
You can choose to hide your head in the sand, (in classic Liberal fashion), or look at the facts....;)
No matter how you look at it, every job filled by an illegal is one less job for an American.....;)
 
So if Obama can stop those pesky Americans from TRYING to get a job, unemployment will drop to 0%!!!!

Tax the rich, put the unemployed on government welfare, and voila! No more unemployment!
 
Illegal immigrants filling low wage jobs is one of the reasons for the high unemployment rate among young black males... )

Yeah, because we all know that young black males are just lining up for those jobs.
 
I fail to see how a soloution is a failure....
Illegal immigrants filling low wage jobs is one of the reasons for the high unemployment rate among young black males...
You can choose to hide your head in the sand, (in classic Liberal fashion), or look at the facts....;)
No matter how you look at it, every job filled by an illegal is one less job for an American.....;)

Your understanding of economics is primitive. There isn't a fixed number of jobs, and the reason for high unemployment among young black males is minimum wage.
 
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