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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you favor non US citizens getting an open mic to lie about this country, lie about their treatment and provide brand new propaganda material for recruiting more members.

    And of course this isn't harmful.

    You do realize these Terrorists who you are supporting here had direct knowledge and support in causeing the worst attack on US soil in history right?

    You do realize they are not US citizens right?

    Are you claiming that these Islamic terrorists have the same rights as US citizens?

    This is your claim?

    Put your cards on the table.

    Are you saying that our universal rights dont apply to percieved 'lessers' and that the rights our laws grant people stop taking effect at some sort of discretion defined by who knows who?

    Allow them to say what they will, and face up to their allegations.

    You're not part of a country historically predisposed to genocides, mass forced movements of populations, invasions based on lies (multiple ones), the murder of millions of civilians and has an ideological vocabulary that is virtually fascist.

    I mean, what can these terrorists say that is any worse than what the average far lefty thinks?

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you favor non US citizens getting an open mic to lie about this country, lie about their treatment and provide brand new propaganda material for recruiting more members.

    And of course this isn't harmful.

    You do realize these Terrorists who you are supporting here had direct knowledge and support in causeing the worst attack on US soil in history right?

    You do realize they are not US citizens right?

    Are you claiming that these Islamic terrorists have the same rights as US citizens?

    This is your claim?

    Put your cards on the table.
    Which part of the internet age and the wealth of 24/7 news channels giving every one with a point of view an open mic confuses you? You cannot stop terrorists getting their views out there, it's too late even if you figured out some way to do it. Our strongest weapon is proving that we are better than they are. I have a lot of confidence in us being better than terrorists.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you are willing to risk more lives on that assumption not supported by any facts whatsoever. Great idea.
    Your assumptions aren't that supported either.

    We tried the perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombings, we tried the men behind the 1993 bombings of the Twin Towers, etc. We have a history of giving trials to those who attacked us, for Justice to be carried out, and so far, it hasn't failed us yet. Both bombings were the biggest compared to 9-11 on US soil, and nothing went wrong when we tried them.

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which part of the internet age and the wealth of 24/7 news channels giving every one with a point of view an open mic confuses you? You cannot stop terrorists getting their views out there, it's too late even if you figured out some way to do it. Our strongest weapon is proving that we are better than they are. I have a lot of confidence in us being better than terrorists.
    I would agree with you if 'turning the other cheek' didn't end up giving us a boot to the face.

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you favor non US citizens getting an open mic to lie about this country, lie about their treatment and provide brand new propaganda material for recruiting more members.

    And of course this isn't harmful.

    You do realize these Terrorists who you are supporting here had direct knowledge and support in causeing the worst attack on US soil in history right?

    You do realize they are not US citizens right?

    Are you claiming that these Islamic terrorists have the same rights as US citizens?

    This is your claim?

    Put your cards on the table.
    A. I don't know they will lie about their treatment since I am not treated like a terrorist by our government. Do you know exactly how they are treated? I didn't think so.

    B. I would argue that Pearl Harbor was worse.

    C. Yes

    D. No

    E. No

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    I would agree with you if 'turning the other cheek' didn't end up giving us a boot to the face.
    Who said anything about turning the other cheek? Trying the guy, presumably finding him guilty, and executing him does not sound like turning the other cheek, it sounds like a justice system in action.
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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who said anything about turning the other cheek? Trying the guy, presumably finding him guilty, and executing him does not sound like turning the other cheek, it sounds like a justice system in action.
    By giving him "Justice" regardless of the end result, we have taken the Moral high road, but that's hardly something to be afraid of if you're an enemy of the U.S.

    OH NO! If they capture me I could stand trial!!!

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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not see a risk. The views are out there to any who want to see them. Further, I do not think it is wise to always choose the course of least risk. We could make the country alot safer by withdrawing all our troops home and using them to vigorously defend our borders, and deny any outside person access to this country. We would be safer, but I don't think it would be wise to do.

    I think the difference between you and I is I am not afraid of people saying things I don't like. It's going to happen, and I think we as a people are strong enough to withstand people offering extremist views.
    The difference between you and me is that I can prove military tribunals which are legal and offer far less danger than civilian courts.

    You cannot prove the opposite which is the entire point.
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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    By giving him "Justice" regardless of the end result, we have taken the Moral high road, but that's hardly something to be afraid of if you're an enemy of the U.S.

    OH NO! If they capture me I could stand trial!!!
    When we stop giving justice is when I will start to truly fear for this country. He is going to get justice, and it will almost certainly end with his execution(a point you managed to forget to mention). Once you start making exceptions, going down that path gets easier and easier.
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    Re: Lawyer: 9/11 defendants want platform for views

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    The difference between you and me is that I can prove military tribunals which are legal and offer far less danger than civilian courts.

    You cannot prove the opposite which is the entire point.
    You cannot prove a realistic risk, just your own fears, which are exaggerated. We have tried terrorists, it's not something new. Your worry seems to be he will say something you don't like, but people do that every day, and we are here still.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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