"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
The question:Just an odd thing, but the poll says 38 % of voters favor the plan proposed by Obama and congressional democrats. Is that the house democrats and their plan, or the senate democrats and their plan?
1* Generally speaking, do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats?
the public option is dead, thanks to jiltin joe
the public option is a lot bigger than jiltin joe
that is, folks who look at the big picture, i would think, would not really care much about joe, beyond his use
but the PO, almost everyone cares about, both sides, very much
if you ask americans if they favor a PO, you'll get one set of numbers
if you query, do you want a PO if it means half a tril in cuts to m and m, you'd get a radically different response
do you support a PO if it's financed by 10 years of taxes, 6 years of benefits?
if it mandates and fines and criminalizes and potentially jails our kids?
if it taxes everyone at every medical turn, from devices to drugs to vaccines to mandates to fines to benefits to payroll to small biz to big biz, the rich, the middle and lower classes?
if it puts impossible obligations on our already bankrupt states?
these are the real questions americans face
they're the questions dems face, from pelosi to reid to ben nelson and blanche lincoln
they're also the questions dp dems need to ask themselves, if they really want to be honest
in my opinion