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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Show us the plan the poll asked about, boo dog.
    Try Google.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Just 38% of voters now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats.
    There is no such thing, boo dog.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Kinda like most Americans where against the surge, and yet Bush went with it anyway...that damn elitist.
    Misdirection and obfuscation.

    Just an odd thing, but the poll says 38 % of voters favor the plan proposed by Obama and congressional democrats. Is that the house democrats and their plan, or the senate democrats and their plan?
    The question:
    1* Generally speaking, do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats?

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    the public option is dead, thanks to jiltin joe

    the public option is a lot bigger than jiltin joe

    that is, folks who look at the big picture, i would think, would not really care much about joe, beyond his use

    but the PO, almost everyone cares about, both sides, very much

    if you ask americans if they favor a PO, you'll get one set of numbers

    if you query, do you want a PO if it means half a tril in cuts to m and m, you'd get a radically different response

    do you support a PO if it's financed by 10 years of taxes, 6 years of benefits?

    if it mandates and fines and criminalizes and potentially jails our kids?

    if it taxes everyone at every medical turn, from devices to drugs to vaccines to mandates to fines to benefits to payroll to small biz to big biz, the rich, the middle and lower classes?

    if it puts impossible obligations on our already bankrupt states?

    these are the real questions americans face

    they're the questions dems face, from pelosi to reid to ben nelson and blanche lincoln

    they're also the questions dp dems need to ask themselves, if they really want to be honest

    in my opinion

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    Show us the plan the poll asked about, boo dog.
    Read the link

    Health Care Reform - Rasmussen Reports

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    There is no such thing, boo dog.
    So there is no house plan and there is no senate Plan?

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The precedent of medicare going broke shows it will not work and government has failed at health insurance.
    Companies go broke all the time, should thay not be able to provide health insurance?

    Of course medicare going broke would be a good reason for reform (just as any company would do), and what do you know, thats what their doing.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Companies go broke all the time, should thay not be able to provide health insurance?

    Of course medicare going broke would be a good reason for reform (just as any company would do), and what do you know, thats what their doing.
    So you want health care from those who have shown they have failed at providing healthcare?

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    Re: Health Care Reform Support for Health Care Plan Falls to New Low

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you want health care from those who have shown they have failed at providing healthcare?
    And we want finance companies that have proven they fail at being finance companies? Car companies that fail at being car companies. We want the government that has failed to protect our freedoms to protect our freedoms. Ahh, hell. Let's just have a revolution and kill all the people that have failed us.

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