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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    This isn't exactly being consistent...

    Could you not, if you wanted to be pedantic, say that anyone from the British isles can be called British, including everyone in Ireland?
    If the Irish want to say their Island is part of the British isles. Who are the British to say that they claim those islands. If you look through British history, they don't even deserve to have Scotland or Wales based on how they treated people on "their" islands.


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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    If the Irish want to say their Island is part of the British isles. Who are the British to say that they claim those islands.
    Who are the British to claim the British Isles? Clue's in the name
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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    Who are the British to claim the British Isles? Clue's in the name
    Hurr Durr Who NAMED them? Oh that's right the British did.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    This isn't exactly being consistent...

    Could you not, if you wanted to be pedantic, say that anyone from the British isles can be called British, including everyone in Ireland?
    Ireland is not the name of the country itself, it's the name of the island. Things that come from that island are called Irish.

    Whereas "British" is applied to the citizens of the United Kingdom, not just things that come from the Island of Great Britain.

    So, while the term "Irish" is applied pretty much exclusively to things that come from a specific Island, this is not the case with the term "British". That term applies just as much to things that do not come from Great Britain, or even the British Isles.

    For example, the British Virgin Islands.

    It seems as though it has more to do with government than geography, while Irish has more to do with geography.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Just because you're initially welcomed doesn't mean you won't wear out that welcome.
    just to refresh your memory

    BBC ON THIS DAY | 14 | 1969: British troops sent into Northern Ireland

    "The arrival of the British troops was greeted with cheering and singing from behind the barricades in the Roman Catholic area of Londonderry. "

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Hurr Durr Who NAMED them? Oh that's right the British did.
    If the Irish Republican movement has no support from the natives, and the Northern Irish support the union, then it is not your place to say what the British should or shouldnt be doing.

    They are allowed to hold a referendum and seperate; as are Wales and Scotland. Whats your point?
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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Hurr Durr Who NAMED them? Oh that's right the British did.
    And they were in a position to name them because?

    Britain ruled Ireland for 700 years, Ireland was not a colony, it was considered part of Britain, it had MPs, it's soldiers fought for the British army. Unionists in NI don't consider themselves part of Britain because their parents emigrated from London, they've lived in Ireland for hundreds of years.

    Unless you're a native american, they've got more of a history in their country than you do in yours.
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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Ireland is not the name of the country itself, it's the name of the island. Things that come from that island are called Irish.

    Whereas "British" is applied to the citizens of the United Kingdom, not just things that come from the Island of Great Britain.

    So, while the term "Irish" is applied pretty much exclusively to things that come from a specific Island, this is not the case with the term "British". That term applies just as much to things that do not come from Great Britain, or even the British Isles.

    For example, the British Virgin Islands.

    It seems as though it has more to do with government than geography, while Irish has more to do with geography.
    You, in my experience, never hear a person who comes from NI call themselves Irish they always stipulate they are from the north of the island i.e. Northern Ireland... quote-"i,m from Northern Ireland"

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post


    It seems as though it has more to do with government than geography, while Irish has more to do with geography.
    I disagree with this, I've always talked about Ireland as being part of the British Isles.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_British_Isles]Terminology of the British Isles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    There is an island of Ireland and an island of Great Britain, together with a binch of other smaller islands they make up the British Isles. In geographic terms I think you can describe anyone from Ireland as from the British Isles, so, if in geographic terms, you could describe anyone from Ireland as being Irish can you not, in geographic terms at least describe anyone from the British Isles as being British?



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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    just to refresh your memory

    BBC ON THIS DAY | 14 | 1969: British troops sent into Northern Ireland

    "The arrival of the British troops was greeted with cheering and singing from behind the barricades in the Roman Catholic area of Londonderry. "

    Ive just noticed this will be my 1000 post, i better get a thanks from someone

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