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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    When the Anglo-Irish treaty was signed, Northern Ireland was part of the Free State.

    They choose to "opt out" back then and it was a majority vote, because back then, Ulster was heavily a protestant majority.

    So at one point, there was a unified Irish Free state. The people chose to return.
    That's because it wasn't the true Irish in Ulster. It was those remaining loyal to the Crown. Of COURSE they wanted to stay in the U.K.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That's because it wasn't the true Irish in Ulster. It was those remaining loyal to the Crown. Of COURSE they wanted to stay in the U.K.
    The "true Irish" were pretty much content with that arrangement back then. They didn't want those who were loyal to the crown to undermine their fledgling nation.

    Romantic Idealism is great for poems and tunes, but it isn't really practical.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The "true Irish" were pretty much content with that arrangement back then. They didn't want those who were loyal to the crown to undermine their fledgling nation.

    Romantic Idealism is great for poems and tunes, but it isn't really practical.
    Practical shmacktical.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That's because it wasn't the true Irish in Ulster. It was those remaining loyal to the Crown. Of COURSE they wanted to stay in the U.K.
    Yeah i think its fair to say that if you removed one side from any conflict then things would run a lot more smoothly but the fact is that protestants/loyalists have been living in Northern Ireland since before the United States existed. They aren't going anywhere and have a right not to be part of a constitutionally catholic state (see consent of the governed) . This means your left with two options, either you can try and bomb the protestant majority into submission (which would be pretty futile as you wouldn't get much support from the south) or you can seek some kind of accommodation with them.

    If you go for the first option things are worse for both sides, you get a stagnant economy, and Catholics are without jobs and opportunities and get killed and imprisoned without trial.

    Since opting for the second option Catholics have gained rights due to the power sharing system. Good schools that used to be almost entirely protestant are now approaching 50/50 and the economy is now improving because people know their investments arent going to get blown up (and ironically because tourists come to see the murals )

    Catholics realized that cooperation worked in their interests and it did. Thats why they voted for it. Even the I.R.A excepted this which is why the current deputy prime minister of Northern Ireland is a former I.R.A commander. Why Americans have the hubris to think they know better then them, despite never having lived though this conflict, i don't know.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Practical shmacktical.
    Try talking to people from Northern Ireland about the conflict. It will appear less romantic pretty quickly

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But but they cant be terrorists as they are Christians and not Muslims!!!!

    They must be "freedom fighters" then, since Christians cant be terrorists and have never committed such acts..








    and for those that cant understand sarcasm, yes this was sarcasm ...
    Take your trolling to the basement. Can you show us where anyone here has said only Muslims are terrorists?
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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Try talking to people from Northern Ireland about the conflict. It will appear less romantic pretty quickly

    it's the fault of the invaders for staying. They should have gone back to their own island. What is in Ireland that they don't have or can't get easily enough in Britain/Scotland/Wales? Nothing. They've just been stubborn and dug in and now there's no easy way to get them out. That's their problem. Their mistake.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Take your trolling to the basement. Can you show us where anyone here has said only Muslims are terrorists?
    Trolling in Europe: Slightly more sophisticated dickery.

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh bugger off with your republic bull****

    N Ireland voted to remain with the Union. Wales and Scotland both joined in treaties.
    What ... are you jealous Britain was intelligent enough to create a Union which benefits all?
    A few Irish terrorists will not change our mind nor make us give up Northern Ireland. Ever. Unless of course they choose through a referedum to become a independent state which we will ofc support.
    Oh and Britain expands into territories outside of the British isles. We have 14 territories under the soverignty of the United Kingdom but not part of it.


    Course. I hope you similarly support the Palestinian 'freedom fighters'. The Iraqis and Afghans....
    I wonder if the one poor scientist in the UK's Antarctic territory have even thought about turning into an insurgent, and declaring it autonomous.
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Irish republicans try to blow up Belfast police building

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Even the I.R.A excepted this
    1. "accepted" this

    2. Not the real I.R.A.

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