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    Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle - Yahoo! News

    This is not good news.

    By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent 5 mins ago
    WASHINGTON Invoking the name of Edward M. Kennedy, Democrats united Saturday night to push historic health care legislation past a key Senate hurdle over the opposition of Republicans eager to inflict a punishing defeat on President Barack Obama. There was not a vote to spare.

    The 60-39 vote cleared the way for a bruising, full-scale debate beginning after Thanksgiving on the legislation, which is designed to extend coverage to roughly 31 million who lack it, crack down on insurance company practices that deny or dilute benefits and curtail the growth of spending on medical care nationally.

    The spectator galleries were full for the unusual Saturday night showdown, and applause broke out briefly when the vote was announced. In a measure of the significance of the moment, senators sat quietly in their seats, standing only when they were called upon to vote.

    Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio missed the vote.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    This essentially means the bill will pass with only minor changes. Say goodbye to America as a 1st world country.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Yea it is, now the filibuster will actually go into affect. The debate is going to go on, and on, and on, untill next november.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    C-SPAN! Gonna get high ratings. I'm waiting patiently for the filibuster. Goonna Tivo it.
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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Yea it is, now the filibuster will actually go into affect. The debate is going to go on, and on, and on, untill next november.
    You don't understand. A filibuster is when you block a vote for cloture. This was the vote for cloture. Now they only need 50 votes plus Biden to pass it from the Senate. There will be no filibuster as the chance has been missed.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    I can't say I'm entirely pleased about it. We need healthcare reform, but I don't think this is the right way to go about it.
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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    It appears a lot of Senators have joined the ranks of House members in wanting to retire from Congress right (expletive) now is the time to let all of them onow their time is short. Enough pressure can still stop this before we have to wait until next years elections to try to revere the Obama Socialist/Marxist Doctrine.

    Here in California the major cast of idiots are a lost cause because all they care about is where their next Botox fix is coming from.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    The bill passed the first hurdle with 60 votes- exactly the number needed, and exactly the number needed to end a filibuster.

    Not a single Republican voted in favor. 3 Democrats (or 2 Democrats and an Independent Democrat) voted for the bill to clear but will not vote to end a filibuster if the public option is included.

    Bottom line: the public option will not pass.

    Let's just hope the same can be said about the mandate to buy insurance.

    If those two things are removed I don't care what crap passes.

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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    You don't understand. A filibuster is when you block a vote for cloture. This was the vote for cloture. Now they only need 50 votes plus Biden to pass it from the Senate. There will be no filibuster as the chance has been missed.
    Don't panic yet....This bill and the house bill still have to be combined and voted on.
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    Re: Historic health care bill clears Senate hurdle

    The $500B hit to medicare will likely cause medicare supplement policies to skyrocket. This is shifting funds from poor and middle class seniors to poor and middle class youth (and after legalization, aliens). Seniors who can't afford the supplement will need bankruptsy.

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