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    Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    The title is a bit deceptive, the Senate is going to vote on starting the debate on health care this Saturday night.

    In a show of unity, Senate Democrats sealed a 60-vote majority needed to advance health care legislation Saturday ahead of an evening showdown with Republicans eager to doom the bill and inflict a punishing defeat on President Barack Obama.
    Maybe I'm wrong, but both sides of the aisle have agreed we need to do something about health care, and regardless of whats in the bill, this vote will allow that necessary discussion to begin. So, my question is, who in their right mind would not want to discuss this health care bill. If it changes, okay, but this is just about starting the debate about it.

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Because a "yes" vote to open debate is an admission of the belief that Government has the ability to compel that health insurance be provided to all & that this will cause the price of health insurance to go down..

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    I may be wrong but I believe this is how the Senate works.. you only need 50 votes to pass a bill, but you need 60 votes to start the debate (and prevent a filibuster). So if you really want to stop it from becoming law you vote against it going to the floor entirely. That's just good strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Because a "yes" vote to open debate is an admission of the belief that Government has the ability to compel that health insurance be provided to all & that this will cause the price of health insurance to go down..
    This would be good.
    Still 6% are not covered.
    Single payer is ??
    Repealing the anti-trust for the insurance companies seems to be dead.
    IMO, the legislators have little to be proud of.

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Wait a minute...what about the filibuster? and Joe Lieberman?

    There was no doubt about debate but, well, there you go. Filibuster.

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Wait a minute...what about the filibuster? and Joe Lieberman?

    There was no doubt about debate but, well, there you go. Filibuster.
    Joe Lieberman is an ass, and is not need anymore.

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Because a "yes" vote to open debate is an admission of the belief that Government has the ability to compel that health insurance be provided to all & that this will cause the price of health insurance to go down..
    The belief that competition decreases prices?
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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The belief that competition decreases prices?
    If they "really" believed in Competition, they'd remove the barriers to inter-state insurance, and let that work it's self out for a decade or so before pushing any sort of "government option". It's very dishonest, and shows the lack of honesty in those that try to claim they support the "government option" because they believe in "competition"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    If they "really" believed in competition, they'd remove the barriers to inter-state insurance...
    Congress doesn't have the power to remove the barriers imposed by the States to inter-state insurance, bro, and if they did pass legislation to give Congress such authority, all we would hear would be right wing whack-o-loons screaming "Socialism."

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    Re: Historic Health Care Bill Nears Key Senate Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Joe Lieberman is an ass, and is not need anymore.
    Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he’d back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s health care reform bill.

    Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid has said the Senate bill will.

    Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan - Manu Raju - POLITICO.com

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