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    U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    BAGHDAD — In its largest reconstruction effort since the Marshall Plan, the United States government has spent $53 billion for relief and reconstruction in Iraq since the 2003 invasion, building tens of thousands of hospitals, water treatment plants, electricity substations, schools and bridges.

    The projects run the gamut — from a cutting-edge, $270 million water treatment plant in Nasiriya that works at a fraction of its intended capacity because it is too sophisticated for Iraqi workers to operate, to a farmers’ market that farmers cannot decide how to share, to a large American hospital closed immediately after it was handed over to Iraq because the government was unable to supply it with equipment, a medical staff or electricity.

    The concern about the sustainability of the projects comes as Iraq is preparing for pivotal national elections in January and as rebuilding has emerged as a political imperative in Iraq, eclipsing security in some parts of the country as the main anxiety of an electorate frustrated with the lack of social, economic and political progress. American forces are scheduled to begin withdrawing in large numbers next year.

    In hundreds of cases during the past two years, the Iraqi government has refused or delayed the transfer of American-built projects because it cannot staff or maintain them, Iraqi and American government officials say.

    Other facilities, including hospitals, schools and prisons built with American funds, have remained empty long after they were completed because there were not enough Iraqis trained to operate them.
    Read the rest at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/wo...t.html?_r=1&hp

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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    This is a top down problem. The people on top think that by tossing money at the situation they can make a country developed within just a few years. It doesn't work that way. I've heard for a while that the Iraqi people are not making the transition, and this article confirms it.

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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    I believe we are going to have to spend decades and probably tens of trillions of dollars if we ever hope to be sucessful converting Iraqis into an American way of thinking.

    What I suspect will happen once America leaves them to thier own choices is they will revert to what they were before we arrived.

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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    Only reinforces what Ive thought for awhile, the Iraqi's are basically using us as a crutch.
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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    I had heard of this before as well. It is quite depressing. From the article it seems there continues to be electricity shortages making some of these facilities non-operational. There also seems to be a shortage of personnel (for hospital).

    But the biggest item is the lack of properly trained personnel. I imagine the Iraqis as a man who has owned a 1968 Chevy Chevelle for 30 years. They know it inside and out, how to fix the rotor ignition and repair and tune the carburetor. All of a sudden we give him a 2009 Chevy Monte Carlo and expect him to learn how to repair it. We've got computer controlled electronic ignition and electronic fuel injection. He hasn't got a clue how it works. He has no background in computers to figure it out. He's a tinkerer and you can't tinker on modern cars.

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    A lot of the best and the brightest have perished or have fled Iraq. I think it will be at least a generation before we see high competency and field redundancy in critical modes such as medicine and infrastructure.

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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    George Bush should be forced to work the rest of his miserable life to contribute to the cost of the Iraq War he lied us into.

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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    Its not a perfect democracy in and no one ever thought it would be but we have won the war in Iraq...........It is more peaceful there on any given night as it is in Detroit.........It kills you lefties to give President Bush any credit but because of him Saddam and his murderous rapist sons are dead..We do have soemewhat of a democracy there and its up to the Iraqis from here on out........Thank you President Bush..............
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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Only reinforces what Ive thought for awhile, the Iraqi's are basically using us as a crutch.
    Possibly,

    But I do think that they are fairly justifiable in that way of thinking, if it is so. I mean if someone blows up your house, and they expect you to rebuild it, ten it would only make sense that you would try to get anything possible.
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    Re: U.S. Fears Iraqis Will Not Keep Up Rebuilt Projects

    First a wish everyone would understand that unless you have a time machine you are not going to get to go back and change the mistakes Bush made and they were plenty.

    The important thing to understand is we can not afford to spend the rest of out lives taking care of the Iraqis. It's like with children at some point you have let go out and make it on their own, and hope and pray you have past on to them the knowledge to get by.

    I hate to bring up old axioms but you can lead a camel to water but you can't make drink. Or something like that.

    As long as we can insure that Iraq never become the threat we were lead to believe they were under Saddam we have done enough. I'm not saying abandon them all together, just step back and give them room and time to sink or swim.

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