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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You are mischaracterizing the term "liberal" here.
    Yeah, that happens about ten times a day on every single debate board in the universe.

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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You are mischaracterizing the term "liberal" here. Liberalism has to do with individual rights, whereas multiculturalism sublimates the individual to the group, and assigns the rights to the group, instead.
    And the ability to move into this country and have government services provided in your language aren't individual rights? The idea that other peoples' lifestyles, no matter how repulsive to us, must be tolerated isn't individual rights?

    Multiculturalism is a liberal issue. It is about the individual's right to live among us without being a part of us, or in extreme form to deny that there is an "us" at all-- only a sea of individual "mes" with no affinity or obligation to one another.

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    While many deluded people who embrace multiculturalism may CALL themselves liberal, the politics they are espousing have little to do with actual liberalism, and more to do with a brand of leftist group think more akin to a cult or religion in its rigid and extremely hypocritical orthodoxy.
    I agree that the Left isn't necessarily liberal, but from where I am sitting, almost everyone in the West-- Left or Right-- is varying degrees of liberal. The Right wants more economic and religious freedom, and the Left wants more civil liberties and freedom from cultural standards, but they are all basically liberal with the exception of a handful of hardcases at the top.

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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Except the gun should say 'conservatives', since the particular suggestion in question is coming from Islamic countries, most of which are among the most conservative in the world.
    The artist should of included a bullet flying in to the mouth that had 'political correctness' sketched on its side.
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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    And the ability to move into this country and have government services provided in your language aren't individual rights? The idea that other peoples' lifestyles, no matter how repulsive to us, must be tolerated isn't individual rights?
    Well, no. Where did you find those in the Constitution? You sound like a liberal, making up rights.

    The Right wants more economic and religious freedom, and the Left wants more civil liberties and freedom from cultural standards, but they are all basically liberal with the exception of a handful of hardcases at the top.
    So now the right is liberal. Okay. Shows you why all this talk of left and right and liberal and conservative is pointless, not to mention irrellevant.

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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    People have really lost sight of what the terms liberal and conservative actually mean, haven't they?
    This is so true.
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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    This is so true.
    Yes. Especially liberal. Some people use it to mean "anyone I disagree with about anything."

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    Re: Muslim Nations Seeking International Blasphemy Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think? The whole idea offends my concept of free speech. Should blasphemy be grouped as hate speech?
    It would be kind of funny to watch something like this get enacted. You gotta know the states like Iran would be breaching the guidlines all day long, and the "world court" wouldn't do anything about it.

    All I can say is that is one sensitive little god them muslims worship.

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