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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    And what if "taking his time" jeopardizes the mission, or the troops' lives? What if it emboldens our enemies? Do you ever see a possible downside to anything Obama does?
    the troops are not standing in a field with nowhere to run. They will proceed with the current mission until the new mission is announced.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What's mindless about listening to the top commander in Afghanistan? Who is in a better position than him to make such a determination? He says he needs the troops as soon as possible or we are likely to fail; really, what is there to think about?

    Upon receiving the request Obama should have immediately convened his top military advisors and presented a plan in no less than seventy-two hours. Expecting your Commander in Chief to be decisive in a time of war is not unreasonable.
    It is if all he has ever been is a street rabble rouser.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Re: Bush "rushing" his decision - only if you don't factor in the fact that Saddam had his men shooting at our planes over the no-fly zone.

    I love how that always seems to get left out of discussions of Bush/Iraq. I was on debate boards when Saddam's men were actively shooting at our planes, and even while it was happening liberals didn't want to discuss the fact that it was happening. (They only wanted to discuss WOMD - ie. where were they? Um, duh, that was the whole point, Saddam, not Bush, had to produce them or evidence that they were destroyed since we feared Iraq had sold them off to terrorists or was moving them around, remember video footage showing them moving things around before inspectors showed up?) Anyway, firing at our airplanes interferred with their argument that Bush was rushing into things or that he was engaging in a "pre-emptive strike" History got re-written this decade but some of us remember the truth.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Hasn't Obama been close to a decision on Afghanistan for a few months now?

    Like him or not, at least Bush was the decider. May have been the wrong decision sometimes, but at least he made one. Obama is more like Jimmy Carter on that score.
    Sometimes? More like most of the time.

    Anyone can make a wrong rash decision. It takes a leader to make a good one.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    yeah as long as your kid aint in harms way, take all the time in the world.....
    Oh Please.....your words might have a little more credibility had you taken a stand for all the "kids" that were killed because of GWB's lies and bad decisions to get us into this mess.

    If my "kid" were involved in this war....I would much rather have someone in charge that looks at the strategies and options and makes an informed decision than one who makes a quick one without weighing the consequences.
    My "kid" is not a pawn to be used at the whim of the "commander in chief". I would hope that the "commander in chief" would understand and respect that.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    Re: Bush "rushing" his decision - only if you don't factor in the fact that Saddam had his men shooting at our planes over the no-fly zone.

    I love how that always seems to get left out of discussions of Bush/Iraq. I was on debate boards when Saddam's men were actively shooting at our planes, and even while it was happening liberals didn't want to discuss the fact that it was happening. (They only wanted to discuss WOMD - ie. where were they? Um, duh, that was the whole point, Saddam, not Bush, had to produce them or evidence that they were destroyed since we feared Iraq had sold them off to terrorists or was moving them around, remember video footage showing them moving things around before inspectors showed up?) Anyway, firing at our airplanes interferred with their argument that Bush was rushing into things or that he was engaging in a "pre-emptive strike" History got re-written this decade but some of us remember the truth.
    I do remember Bush Sr...and Dick Cheney making the decision not to take Saddam out when they had the chance in the first gulf war.
    That is the sad truth.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Hyper Partisan Liberal: Of course, taking months upon months to make decisions on a generals recommendation is great. That's what we want, not some yahoo that makes snap judgements

    Hyper Partisan Republican: Waiting months is going to kill troops, we need someone to act immedietely upon recommendation of a generals recommendations no matter what they are or how it affects the nation as a whole or the war effort as a whole.

    Normal People: Seriously, is there not a middle ground here between "Wooo lets invade everything!" and "I need to make a decision, contact me in 2013 when I don't have re-election to deal with"
    While our troops are left to die

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sometimes? More like most of the time.

    Anyone can make a wrong rash decision. It takes a leader to make a good one.
    You can't be a leader if you avoid making a decision like Obama has been doing here for months.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    While our troops are left to die
    And if even more troops died to a quick, poor decision, you would be bitching about that. Face it, there isn't a single thing that Obama can do that the pathetic Obama haters out there won't criticize.

    The truth is the Obama haters are more concerned about hurting Obama than they are about the troops.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Bingo. The anti-Obama crowd is all about how they can use the "troops" to push their agenda. Its so disengenuous.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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