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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is my understanding that he pretty much called the shots for Iraq. Was there another I am unaware of? One entity, good of bad, running the country pretty much defines a central government.

    If it doesn't fit your preconceived notions about Iraq, I am sorry. Under Sadam, Iraq became one of the most well educated countries in the Middle East.

    What do you base your claim on that Afghanistan is anywhere close to the sophistication of pre-occupation Iraq?
    Is that why we have had problems with the different sects fighting each other in Iraq?

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Is that why we have had problems with the different sects fighting each other in Iraq?
    Sects fighting, yes, especially since we removed the central leader that was keeping them at bay.

    There never was such a central leader, good or bad, in Afghanistan. That is the point being made.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sects fighting, yes, especially since we removed the central leader that was keeping them at bay.

    There never was such a central leader, good or bad, in Afghanistan. That is the point being made.
    You mean he was filling mass graves with the disobedient.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    bush made a quick decision on iraq.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Is that why we have had problems with the different sects fighting each other in Iraq?
    It is true that neither our occupation nor our corrupt puppet government has done as good a job as Saddam did at keeping the sects at bay.

    In Afghanistan they have a tribal leadership history, unlike with Iraq under Saddam. There has never been a central leader (dictator if you like) as a controlling central entity in Afghanistan.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mean he was filling mass graves with the disobedient.
    Most of that was carried out when we were his ally. You do realize this thread is about Afghanistan, right?
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    in order to support the troops we need a tax hike to pay for all the disabled vets who will be coming back from afghanistan.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is true that neither our occupation nor our corrupt puppet government has done as good a job as Saddam did at keeping the sects at bay.

    In Afghanistan they have a tribal leadership history, unlike with Iraq under Saddam. There has never been a central leader (dictator if you like) as a controlling central entity in Afghanistan.
    Wrong they had Kings before 1973

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    ptif219,

    All you do is criticize.

    How about you offer YOUR plan for a change?
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    the va can't handle the increased caseload of disabled vets. we need a tax hike on the rich. support the troops. time to pay up.

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