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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Are you completely incapable of answering any hard question that questions your ideology?
    I don't fall into traps. Obama said he would be transparent and finish it. So Obama must have it planned out so your questions should be addressed to him. You don't like it when we look to Obama the one in charge who should have the answers and should do what he said be transparent.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then Obama should get off of cap and trades and healthcare and fix the economy so they have jobs when they get out.
    The president doesn't control or even influence the economy.
    The president has no power over the economy.
    No president has ever had power over the economy.
    The president can't fix the economy.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Sov View Post
    Indeed. There never even was a war against those actually responsible for 9/11, the Saudis, enabled by elements within the American government. Instead, support for the Wahhabi Saudi regime was maintained. The 9/11 attack would hardly have occurred were it not for Wahhabism, yet America has continued to subsidize it. The U.S. military toppled a major check on Tehran's power and then proceeded to bog itself down in Afghanistan. Osama and other terrorists originally funded, armed and trained by the CIA remain at large. As a result of Uncle Sam's latest round of kicking over beehives abroad, millions of people who were not previously receptive to recruitment by Islamist terrorists are now. The likelihood of another 9/11 is thereby increased. Mission failed, unless the mission is ongoing war for profit.
    That's right, and for a damn good political reason. They control the biggest chunk of oil over there, and provide a landing strip.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    The president doesn't control or even influence the economy.
    The president has no power over the economy.
    No president has ever had power over the economy.
    The president can't fix the economy.
    Yet he is hurting the economy. His policies can and do influence the economy. So cap and trade and the health care will not affect the economy?
    Last edited by ptif219; 11-25-09 at 10:21 PM.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yet he is hurting the economy. His policies can and do influence the economy. So cap and trade and the health care will not affect the economy?
    Cap and Trade and Healthcare are crafted by congress.
    The president does not write law.
    He doesn't decide what goes into the bill.
    The president can't do anything about the economy.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's right, and for a damn good political reason. They control the biggest chunk of oil over there, and provide a landing strip.
    Yes, Americans should kiss Saudi ass and bend over to the oil lobby rather than develop alternative sources of energy that they'll eventually need anyway. 9/11 was well worth it.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    Cap and Trade and Healthcare are crafted by congress.
    The president does not write law.
    He doesn't decide what goes into the bill.
    The president can't do anything about the economy.
    So Obama has no influence on his filibuster proof congress?

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So Obama has no influence on his filibuster proof congress?
    Nope.

    He has no influence.

    He does not matter.

    He is 100% irrelevant to the legislative process.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    Nope.

    He has no influence.

    He does not matter.

    He is 100% irrelevant to the legislative process.
    Then you know nothing about politics

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So how is that different than Iraq?
    Iraqis are of the most educated people in the Middle East. This is different than Afghanistan.

    Iraqis have a sense of national government that somewhat transcends the tribe where as Afghanis are very much generally concerned with clan and a government saturated in acceptable corruption.

    Iraqis share a population of three distinct tribes that ultimately will have to get along whereas Afghanis share a population of dozens of individual clans that have more interest in clan preservation that a future community as a whole.



    There is a world of difference between the two.
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