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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    They have to listen to him too. He's their commander-in-chief. He has the final say in the matter.

    Those commanders may have experience on the ground, but similarly, they do not consider the geo-political implications of what they are doing. They have specific missions and they carry them out.

    Obama has a much wider, if less detailed, view of the issue.
    Just what experience do you see Obama having that would make you say something as ill-considered as that?

    Do you have any idea of the kinds of education and experience that Generals in the US military have?.... compare that to a street agitator.
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No more than the left that blindly defends Obama's failure to make a decision in 3 months.
    Obama's failure was staying in Afghanistan. If we don't get the tribesmen to fight with us (which is much different than the Sunni Awakening) we might as well get the coffins ready; sorry to put it so blunt, but the Afghanis and Tribesmen will eat our soldiers alive in that god forsaken alive


    Just look! They've put us on the Defensive (according to McChrystals' plan) and we are pretty much from the future (in terms of technology).

    They spend $200-$500 per soldier and we spend $1million.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Sorry but weeks is not close days is close. He is still far away and hurting our troops if it is weeks away.


    Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report - Yahoo! News

    U.S. President Barack Obama said in an interview with CNN on Wednesday he is "very close" to a decision on boosting troop levels in Afghanistan and would make an announcement "in the next several weeks."
    Please edit the thread title to reflect the news story title:

    Obama, still no decision on Afghan troops: TV report

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    with all due respect, you don't seem to like people very much
    Incorrect. I don't like hypocritical blind morons, hence why it appears I don't like people very much. But the key piece of information you omit is that this place is full of blind, hypocritical morons.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Incorrect. I don't like hypocritical blind morons, hence why it appears I don't like people very much. But the key piece of information you omit is that this place is full of blind, hypocritical morons.
    At least some of us admit when we're wrong. And the fact that you would call others blind and hypocritical is...well....a little hypocritical. We're ALL guilty, and that includes you.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you won't answer the question
    Which question? I wasn't aware there was only one General. Furthermore you are going out of your way to pretend that Bush and Obama are any different to the point you are completely ignoring entire posts.

    Was it genocide in Iraq with the surge?
    I was hoping you'd say that. Iraq was not just about troops. General Petreaus and people like Lt. Col. Nagl virtually overhauled the entire strategy in Iraq. So much so that it's questionable if more troops were needed once the switch from seek and destroy to security went into effect. Furthermore, the tactics got many of our former enemies to switch sides.

    Tell me how that is the same as Afghanistan. Are we completely switching tactics there? Have we determined a method of economic development?

    Or are you going to run away from questions as you normally do?


    I see you are 100% ignorant of what happened. Not surprising. You seem to think that Bush and Obama are different.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    At least some of us admit when we're wrong. And the fact that you would call others blind and hypocritical is...well....a little hypocritical. We're ALL guilty, and that includes you.
    I've admitted I was wrong plenty of times here. How many people do you know that come out and state even though they may dislike something, they can see the benefits and describe those benefits? I'd say very, very, very few.

    I did it this week in the stupid taxation = theft argument.

    Too many morons here lack the capacity to separate their bias from objectivity.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post

    Do you have any idea of the kinds of education and experience that Generals in the US military have?.... compare that to a street agitator.
    None.
    Their education is in cold-war-era tactics and strategy.
    They have no idea of how to build a nation.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    None.
    Their education is in cold-war-era tactics and strategy.
    They have no idea of how to build a nation.
    Not sure that applies to all of them. I have yet to see something other then "more troops" as a tactic. Last I checked, Petreaus's security tactic that worked in Iraq was being applied to Afghanistan for months now. Doesn't appear to be working.

    And while no one other then myself wishes to deal with this, unless we figure out what Afghanistan can produce to provide revenue to build a sustaining economy, we're going to be there forever. Bush never dealt with this in seven years so I'm willing to give Obama more then a few months before coming down on him.

    Can't say that for the hyperpartisans.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not sure that applies to all of them. I have yet to see something other then "more troops" as a tactic. Last I checked, Petreaus's security tactic that worked in Iraq was being applied to Afghanistan for months now. Doesn't appear to be working.

    And while no one other then myself wishes to deal with this, unless we figure out what Afghanistan can produce to provide revenue to build a sustaining economy, we're going to be there forever. Bush never dealt with this in seven years so I'm willing to give Obama more then a few months before coming down on him.

    Can't say that for the hyperpartisans.
    I think the US is doomed.
    We have two parties:
    The party of the rich, big corporations, military contractors, and bankers.
    and
    bat-crap crazy trailer trash Jesus party.

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