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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It has been3 months since they asked for troops and still no decision. How is he listening? He needs to make a decision, not go on for months saying he is close to decision.
    Again, more troops alone has never won an insurgency unless that power was willing to wage near genocide.

    So are you willing to wage near genocide or are you going to keep avoiding the hard questions?

    Tell me, how will it look when we boost troops right after the an openly fraudulent election reinstates an extremely corruption government?

    Yeah....good job there.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    That's a pretty moot statement considering groups like Code Pink are "left" leaning...Let's be honest...Both 'sides' are guilty of furthering their own agendas.
    It's just that some people here can't see that. It is amusing watching people bash one party without realizing that both are really the same. And you know right off the bat that if their candidate was making the decision, they'd give the slack.

    Often this board reminds me why people are scum.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It is amusing watching people bash one party without realizing that both are really the same.
    not when it comes to health care

    Often this board reminds me why people are scum.
    with all due respect, you don't seem to like people very much

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    ....
    Often this board reminds me why people are scum.
    Does this mean we're not friends anymore. Say it ain't so.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    8 years of our "war on terror" that has been counter productive with a 3 Trillion dollar price tag is why American opinion has grown against continuing our war against the Afghanis.

    I keep my fingers crossed that Obama has the sense to learn from the mistakes of the last 8 years.
    Wrong it is the way Obama is hndeling it.


    While Obama patiently ponders Afghan policy, impatient Americans are already deciding: poll | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times


    Fifty-two percent of the 1,001 adult Americans polled Nov. 12-15 now say the war there has not been worth the cost, down 13 points in the last 11 months.

    That's not a good sign for a president heading into a likely decision to increase that commitment -- and facing crucial midterm elections next year.

    According to the new ABC News/Washington Post Poll, only 44% now say the war has been worth it, the smallest support percentage in nearly three years. The poll has a margin of error of +/-3.5%.

    Once, Obama's war policies were his strongest poll suit (63%). Now, only 45% approve of Obama's handling of Afghanistan; more (48%) don't. His war support among independents, a crucial ingredient in the Democrat's election victory 54 weeks ago, has slipped to 39%.

    Support for additional commitments is particularly weak among young voters and women.

    Obama, like President Bush before him in both Afghanistan and Iraq, has made a main argument that it's better to fight terrorism over there and deny terrorists safe training and staging havens than endure repeat 9/11 attacks on the homeland.

    Ominously, for Obama, however, less than a quarter of Americans now buy that argument. Nearly two-thirds (64%) currently say the risk of terrorism at home is the same whether we continue to fight there or withdraw.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I hope for developing a strategy that can be productive instead of the failure it has been for the last 8 years.
    By time that happens Obama will no longer be president since he can't commit to a decision.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Youíre quoting a post that I didnít make but thatís OK, Iíll run with it.

    You state that Obama is bad for moral and popular opinion Öwhatever popular opinion is.

    What is the time period on the drop in troop moral that you are quoting?
    Report: US Troop Morale Down in Afghanistan | News | English

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. Bush fired them when he didn't agree with them.
    He replaced them with Gates and the surge that has allowed a reduction in Iraq

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Really? Care to examine Rumsfeld's role in Iraq?

    Care to discuss why retired generals actively came out and said Iraq was failing breaking centuries of precedent of never talking about an ongoing conflict and Bush almost entirely ignored them?



    One must wonder if you can read.

    I noticed you utterly failed to address anything I wrote.

    Tell me, if more troops alone would work, why aren't the French still in control of IndoChina?
    So you won't answer the question

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Again, more troops alone has never won an insurgency unless that power was willing to wage near genocide.

    So are you willing to wage near genocide or are you going to keep avoiding the hard questions?

    Tell me, how will it look when we boost troops right after the an openly fraudulent election reinstates an extremely corruption government?

    Yeah....good job there.
    Was it genocide in Iraq with the surge?

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