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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

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    We lost Viet Nam, when we lost the peoples trust. We started losing the peoples trust on March 16, 1968 in Quảng Ngăi Province, in the villages of Mỹ Lai and My Khe, where over 500 mostly elderly women and some children were killed, some were also raped.

    Prior to that we got good intel from the Villagers as to the where abouts Charlie was. After that all we got was glares when we passed a Hooche.
    Exactly and because we did not learn from our mistakes in Vietnam, that is also basically the same reasons the Rand Report to the Pentagon found we are losing the "war on terrorism". The more civilians we kill the easier it is for the the terrorists to recruit new members worldwide.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The surge and bribes to the bad actors only made our occupation successful in Iraq, that is all. We beat back the resistance to our invasion. The puppet government we enabled there can only stand with our occupation.

    That's what you call working? The Rand Report to the Pentagon determined the "war on terror" has been a failure.
    Obama not making decisions until he thinks it will help his career is helping?

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

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    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post

    Exactly and because we did not learn from our mistakes in Vietnam, that is also basically the same reasons the Rand Report to the Pentagon found we are losing the "war on terrorism". The more civilians we kill the easier it is for the the terrorists to recruit new members worldwide.
    Since Obama took over the opinion of Americans has dropped as far as believing we are winning. Obama is bad for popular opinion and moral because he will not make decision and win the war as he said he would.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama not making decisions until he thinks it will help his career is helping?
    And you have what documentation to back up your opinion?
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And you have what documentation to back up your opinion?
    Why else does it take more than three months to say yes or no to more troops?

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post

    Since Obama took over the opinion of Americans has dropped as far as believing we are winning. Obama is bad for popular opinion and moral because he will not make decision and win the war as he said he would.
    8 years of our "war on terror" that has been counter productive with a 3 Trillion dollar price tag is why American opinion has grown against continuing our war against the Afghanis.

    I keep my fingers crossed that Obama has the sense to learn from the mistakes of the last 8 years.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why else does it take more than three months to say yes or no to more troops?
    I hope for developing a strategy that can be productive instead of the failure it has been for the last 8 years.
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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I hope for developing a strategy that can be productive instead of the failure it has been for the last 8 years.
    Because Politicians in Washington know better than Commanders on the ground in Iraq. How many Liberal Senators have visited Afghanistan btw? How many talk with the Commanders? This isn't some Union worker arbitration, these are real life and death scenarios.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Sorry but weeks is not close days is close. He is still far away and hurting our troops if it is weeks away.


    Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report - Yahoo! News

    U.S. President Barack Obama said in an interview with CNN on Wednesday he is "very close" to a decision on boosting troop levels in Afghanistan and would make an announcement "in the next several weeks."
    One of the attributes of a leader is being able to make a decision. A decision some time this century would be nice.

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    Re: Obama "very close" to Afghan troop decision: TV report

    =ptif

    Since Obama took over the opinion of Americans has dropped as far as believing we are winning. Obama is bad for popular opinion and moral because he will not make decision and win the war as he said he would.
    You’re quoting a post that I didn’t make but that’s OK, I’ll run with it.

    You state that Obama is bad for moral and popular opinion …whatever popular opinion is.

    What is the time period on the drop in troop moral that you are quoting?
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